Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

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Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#1 Post by cedric.lunneborg » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:54 pm

I was looking around on some information about Windows 2000 and I found a tutorial for running pretty much the latest version of software compatible with Windows XP! Also includes setting up Malwarebytes. A must watch for anyone with a Thinkpad that is best with Windows 2000!

Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Fj-KhLoH8
Mirror: https://vimeo.com/151935706

Creator: https://www.youtube.com/user/experienceRCOS/

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#2 Post by 28CarsLater » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:53 am

FYI: Video marked as private on YT from US.
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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#3 Post by cedric.lunneborg » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:26 pm

28CarsLater wrote:FYI: Video marked as private on YT from US.
Yeah the channel was abandoned because of copyright strikes. I will upload a mirror.

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#4 Post by cedric.lunneborg » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:41 pm

28CarsLater wrote:FYI: Video marked as private on YT from US.
Mirror is up!

https://vimeo.com/151935706

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#5 Post by BillP » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:50 pm

Nice video - thanks for uploading it. There is reference to various links in the video but I do not see those on the page, at least not in IE11.
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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#6 Post by cedric.lunneborg » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:44 pm

BillP wrote:Nice video - thanks for uploading it. There is reference to various links in the video but I do not see those on the page, at least not in IE11.
The original uploader on youtube privated his videos because of a copyright strike before I had the chance to copy and mirror the links to the resources. I am trying to reach out to him on e-mail.

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#7 Post by MrMaguire » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:26 pm

I posted some info about running modern software on Windows 2000 about 8 months ago. I was shot down by wannabe security experts.

I'd be wary about mirroring that guy's video. He has a history of claiming copyright on his video content and having them taken down.

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Here's how you run modern software on Windows 2000:

1) Install it and update it.

2) Download, extract and install this: https://www.mediafire.com/?a4orwv4p5z1m2c4 (November 30th, 2014 release [Most recent])

3) Install software using the Application Compatibility Launcher in the start menu (You have to drag and drop .exe files into the Command Prompt window and press enter)

4) Don't update Windows (The package will disable Windows Update - and for good reason. Don't panic security experts)

(You don't need the Unofficial Service Pack 5 or Update Rollup 2. Their purpose is to update Windows 2000 easily. They contain no additional functionality.)

(Don't install Update Rollup 1 if you have more than a single core processor. Update Rollup 1 has a bug that breaks Windows 2000's multiprocessor support.)

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#8 Post by BillP » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:01 am

MrMaguire wrote:
Here's how you run modern software on Windows 2000:

1) Install it and update it.
Does this mean install Windows 2000 and then install service pack 4? What is included in the updates?
2) Download, extract and install this: https://www.mediafire.com/?a4orwv4p5z1m2c4 (November 30th, 2014 release [Most recent])
More detail is needed on what this file contains and what its origins are. How does it compare to the unofficial service pack and rollup mentioned in the video?
3) Install software using the Application Compatibility Launcher in the start menu (You have to drag and drop .exe files into the Command Prompt window and press enter)
This is in the video so I assume the function is similar in your preferred updates.

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4) Don't update Windows (The package will disable Windows Update - and for good reason. Don't panic security experts)
What is the good reason for avoiding Windows Updates?
(You don't need the Unofficial Service Pack 5 or Update Rollup 2. Their purpose is to update Windows 2000 easily. They contain no additional functionality.)
They do contain security updates, no? Again, how do these updates contrast with the file you linked above?
(Don't install Update Rollup 1 if you have more than a single core processor. Update Rollup 1 has a bug that breaks Windows 2000's multiprocessor support.)
There were two versions of Update Rollup 1, the first being released on June 28, 2005 and the second on September 13, 2005. Does this multiprocessor bug affect both versions? Where can I find a discussion of this issue to get more background information?
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#9 Post by MrMaguire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:00 am

BillP wrote:Does this mean install Windows 2000 and then install service pack 4? What is included in the updates?
Install Windows 2000 as you usually would, before the unofficial updates came to be.
More detail is needed on what this file contains and what its origins are. How does it compare to the unofficial service pack and rollup mentioned in the video?
That is an archive file containing a homebrew Windows update package. To enable modern software to run on Windows 2000, functionality needed to be added in the form of resources in system files. Programmes call upon these resources. They were ported one by one as needed from Windows XP SP2, SP3 and Vista and 7 system files.

This package also contains a modified kernel with additional resources. The new kernel is responsible for most of the added functionality.

This package also contains a few updated components for Windows. i.e, Windows XP's Paint, Notepad and a few others.

This package was produced by a dedicated team of enthusiasts who reside on various software forums. The package should be treated much like a Linux distribution, in the sense that it was created purely out of good faith, and comes with no warranty. If you find any problem with this software, it can be reported here: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156521- ... dows-2000/

This package has absolutely no malicious intent!
This is in the video so I assume the function is similar in your preferred updates.
It's the same. FYI, you only need to use the Application Compatibility Launcher once - when you install a particular programme.

Sometimes you won't need to use it even in that case. For example, if you install Firefox using the Application Compatibility Launcher, you won't need to use it to install Pale Moon or Thunderbird. Their installers will launch successfully.

Not all modern programmes will work. Chrome won't work. Office 2007 won't work. Firefox and its derivatives will work. The latest version of Flash will work. So it's enough to get by, along with older software, such as Office XP.
What is the good reason for avoiding Windows Updates?
Windows Update will scan the versions of the unofficial files, and will offer updates that are actually older, and that break the new functionality. Since Windows Update believes it has all the latest files.
They do contain security updates, no? Again, how do these updates contrast with the file you linked above?
I actually made a slight mistake: Benefit may be had by installing Update Rollup 2, since it contains system files that have been patched in the same fashion as the equivalent file in Windows XP. Again, there is dedication here.

Update Rollup 2 can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/n53ji ... 86-ENU.exe

It must be installed before Unofficial Update Rollup!

As for Unofficial Service Pack 5.1, it does contain security updates, but they are the same security updates offered officially by Microsoft on Windows Update.

If you update Windows 2000 using Windows Update (or have installation media that is already up-to-date), you don't need to install the same updates again. It's pointless. Windows Service Packs were produced simply for convenience. Unofficial Service Pack 5 is from 2006. Version 5.1 contains more updates released after Service Pack 4.

These two packages differ from the aformentioned Unofficial Update Rollup since they offer no additional functionality to Windows 2000.
There were two versions of Update Rollup 1, the first being released on June 28, 2005 and the second on September 13, 2005. Does this multiprocessor bug affect both versions? Where can I find a discussion of this issue to get more background information?
The discussion on this subject can be found here: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/174127- ... -machines/

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#10 Post by BillP » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:39 pm

Thanks for your detailed response. Microsoft describes the rollup 1 problem with CPU excessive temperature in KB919521. A single entry to the registry solves the problem so the total avoidance of rollup 1 seems unnecessary.

The Unofficial Update Rollup creates a large number of fundamental changes so as to essentially produce a new operating system if I understand you correctly. This may be all to the good but it should be carefully considered by anyone thinking of applying the update.
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#11 Post by MrMaguire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:10 pm

With all the issues I've had with Windows 2000 on multicore systems with Update Rollup 1, I'd be surprised if a simple registry tweak does the trick.

Unofficial Update Rollup does modify the system extensively, but it is still Windows 2000 underneath. Overall, I'd recommend Windows XP over 2000 for basically everything. But still, the experimentation is fun.

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#12 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:06 am

Re-vamping this thread...

Links are dead...all of them. Does anyone has info on what they actually contained, or a copy of the files involved?

Speaking of which, does anyone have a *safe* link for SP4? Not that I desperately need it, but wouldn't mind having it.
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#13 Post by olex126 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:39 am

ajkula66 wrote:Re-vamping this thread...

Links are dead...all of them. Does anyone has info on what they actually contained, or a copy of the files involved?

Speaking of which, does anyone have a *safe* link for SP4? Not that I desperately need it, but wouldn't mind having it.

Hi George.

I can Dropbox a copy and email you the link if no one gets back to you first.

Will be a couple of days before I can get to it, no access to my server for a bit.

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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#14 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:02 am

olex126 wrote: Hi George.

I can Dropbox a copy and email you the link if no one gets back to you first.

Will be a couple of days before I can get to it, no access to my server for a bit.

Regards.

Dave
Dave,

Thanks for the offer, old friend... :thumbs-UP:

Found everything that I needed in regards to W2K locally.

Furthermore, I did a clean install of W2K SP4 on my T43pSF using a spare hard drive last night, and it's a thing of beauty. W2K lives, as far as I'm concerned...
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#15 Post by 600X » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:08 pm

Back in the old days, I used to employ the so called Wrapper Pack to play Windows XP/Vista games on 2000. I don't know if they still maintain the project, but it might be worth checking it out.
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Re: Windows 2000 in 2015. A tutorial on running modern software in Windows 2000!

#16 Post by sdfox7 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:16 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:06 am
Re-vamping this thread...

Links are dead...all of them. Does anyone has info on what they actually contained, or a copy of the files involved?

Speaking of which, does anyone have a *safe* link for SP4? Not that I desperately need it, but wouldn't mind having it.
Ajkula66

I know this is an old thread, but all of the dead Microsoft links can be access just by plugging the original links into the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine) http://archive.org

I actually created a page years ago which consolidates all the Windows 2000 packages on one page, with the archive links (all packages are digitally signed by Microsoft):

http://sdfox7.com/win2ksp.htm

For older NT service packs (NT 3.1, NT 3.5, NT 3.51, NT 4.0) these never made it onto the IA:

http://sdfox7.com/winntsp.htm
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