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XP games on CD/DVDs

#1 Post by Jefferson » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:40 pm

I'v'e rebuilt my old T43 and I love playing games on it. I have several good games from the XP era, Need for Speed, Alice 1, black and white to name a few.

They are all CD/DVD based games.

I hate swapping CD/DVDs for playing games. I tried to use virtual CD software but they simply don't work. I imagine all game CD/DVDs have

some kinda copy protection. I never play pirated games and all my games are legit, boxed set.

Is there a way to play those games without having to swap discs? Or do I have to look for the pirated versions on the internet, which seems too ironic...
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#2 Post by theterminator93 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:20 pm

I make images with ImgBurn, then mount them with Daemon Tools Lite. Sometimes images made with CloneCD work better, as they create a separate subchannel file which is included in the .cue.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#3 Post by dr_st » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:39 am

For protected games, I found that Alcohol 120 is good for making images compatible with the protection (SafeDisc/SecuROM/StarForce), but it's not free. CloneCD should also be able to do it. Not sure if ImgBurn can. In any case, you sometimes need to find the specific settings in the image-ripping tools that enable circumventing a specific copy protection.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#4 Post by Jefferson » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:42 pm

theterminator93 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:20 pm
I make images with ImgBurn, then mount them with Daemon Tools Lite. Sometimes images made with CloneCD work better, as they create a separate subchannel file which is included in the .cue.
thanks for the great tip! will try soon!
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#5 Post by Jefferson » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:49 pm

dr_st wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:39 am
For protected games, I found that Alcohol 120 is good for making images compatible with the protection (SafeDisc/SecuROM/StarForce), but it's not free. CloneCD should also be able to do it. Not sure if ImgBurn can. In any case, you sometimes need to find the specific settings in the image-ripping tools that enable circumventing a specific copy protection.
will also try alcohol120. thanks for the tip!
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Without : 385XD, 600X, 770X, W701, T420, T430, T520, X230
Not working & for parts : At least a dozen
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#6 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:31 am

I still have the original versions of the games Myst and Riven, both on several CDs.
One of these days I intend to play them again, using my trusty Thinkpad T23 with Windows XP.
(FYI: the original battery on that T23 is still good for nearly 2 hours!)

Anybody know if I can copy all the CDs to the HDD and thus play without swapping CDs?
If so, how and/or what does it need?
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#7 Post by dr_st » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:29 pm

You just need to create a CD image and mount it to a virtual drive. Many of the tools mentioned in this thread can do just that. Daemon Tools usually works well and unless your CDs are copy-protected, you won't need anything else.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#8 Post by skx » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:49 pm

In some countries no-cd cracks are legal if you own the original game. Less hassle honestly.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#9 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:37 am

I'm not worried about copy-protection, I have everything needed for/against that.
Just not too interested in swapping CDs all the time, since the CD drive is getting on in age.
A lot of my software is still in storage, which Daemon Tools version should I get for a laptop with XP and only 1GB RAM?
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#10 Post by theterminator93 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:05 pm

I've always had good luck with DT Lite 4.41.3 for that, e.g. on my T42p.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#11 Post by skx » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:14 pm

that should indeed do the job
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#12 Post by Nportman » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:45 am

Daemon Tools is a good software to create a virtual drive. There are several other virtual drive that you can use on windows system check this - https://www.winosbite.com/best-free-dae ... ternative/

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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#13 Post by fissionpowered » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:11 pm

Many old games are also available on gog.com for a small fee. All of the installers are portable and DRM-free, so you can easily move things over to old XP machines.

Compatibility is good, but sometimes not as good as the originals (e.g. POD refuses to run on my Dell Dimension 4100 running XP, despite it being more than capable).

I use WinCDEmu-4.1 and have pretty good luck, might have to try Daemon tools as well.

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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#14 Post by WinksLol » Wed May 03, 2023 4:56 am

I would suggest looking into no-CD cracks. These are patches that remove the CD/DVD check from the game, allowing you to play the game without the disc. However, be sure to use them with caution, as some may come bundled with malware. Still, it's great to hear that you never play pirated games and always use legit boxed sets. As a fellow gamer, I respect that.

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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#15 Post by micrex22 » Fri May 26, 2023 12:35 pm

WinksLol wrote:
Wed May 03, 2023 4:56 am
I would suggest looking into no-CD cracks. These are patches that remove the CD/DVD check from the game, allowing you to play the game without the disc. However, be sure to use them with caution, as some may come bundled with malware. Still, it's great to hear that you never play pirated games and always use legit boxed sets. As a fellow gamer, I respect that.
Thing is, a lot of those games have redbook -- so no point in cracking those ones if you need to emulate it anyways. Unless you're okay without music :P

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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#16 Post by dr_st » Fri May 26, 2023 2:11 pm

Redbook was already not popular in the XP era. Of course, there are many Win9x games with Redbook audio that still run on XP.
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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#17 Post by micrex22 » Fri May 26, 2023 8:22 pm

dr_st wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 2:11 pm
Redbook was already not popular in the XP era. Of course, there are many Win9x games with Redbook audio that still run on XP.
There were still a handful (and many of them continued to be played way beyond 1999), off the top of my head for ones I remember that were later:
  • Age of Empires 2 (1999)
  • Dark Reign 2 (2000)
  • Half-Life Blue Shift (2001)
  • Frogger 2 (2000)
  • Battlezone II (1999)
  • Seven Kingdoms II (1999)
I know as Age of Empires 2 continued to be sold for decades they later swapped out the redbook audio (but that was already far past the XP era, it was assumed anyone with an XP box would still have CD audio).

I remember pretty much any store you went to, there'd always be Diablo 2 and Age of Empires 2 stocked up somewhere :lol:

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Re: XP games on CD/DVDs

#18 Post by dr_st » Fri May 26, 2023 11:39 pm

Precisely. All of the above games were released before Windows XP, but were of course played on many XP machines. By the way, I think it was since XP that CD audio could be played via the IDE cable, so you don't even need the special audio cables to the sound card.

Redbook audio pretty much died completely when games started using DVD as media, as it does not even support the standard. But even in that era, you could find various 'special' or 'collector' editions, which would often include the game's soundtrack in Redbook audio format on a separate CD. :)
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