Outlook express/server question

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kylake · #1 Post by **kylake** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:06 pm

When using outlook express from home wireless connection there is no problem with mail sending and recieving. When I am on a wireless connection somewhere else........like a cafe....the browser works.........mail recieves...but I always gets and error on sending and will not send. Is there something I need to click in outlook express to make it work mobile when I am away from home? (sorry I have exprienced this twice but didn't copy and paste and error code)

#2 Post by **jdhurst** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:32 pm

You need to know the SMTP server where you are located and set up an Outlook Express account that receives from your regular POP setting and sends through the special SMTP setting. ... JD Hurst

MadeInJapan · #3 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:50 pm

....OR use a program called Postcast Server. ( http://www.postcastserver.com/ ) They have a free version and a subscriber version. Basically what this does is create a SMTP server within your own computer and allows you to send mail from anywhere. I use it considerably when I travel...like in hotels (which have no SMTP service and therfore makes it impossible to send your regular email), or even with my cell phone, when I use it as a modem with my Thinkpad. You'll have to change the SMTP information within Outlook Express Temporarily when you use this program. When you're back at home you'll need to switch it back to what you normally use. I love this program because I can send email as if it's from my home town's, local email server. There's no foul-ups and everyone I write to thinks I'm writing from home.

If you need any help with this, let me know.

Leon · #4 Post by **Leon** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:04 am

But that program will only work if your ISP has the SMTP port open, correct?

MadeInJapan · #5 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:44 am

Yes, you would open that port if you indicate in Outlook Express's Tools/Accounts/Mail/(select email account)/Properties/Servers/Outgoing Mail(SMTP) an SMTP address. In the case of Postcast Server, the SMTP server in this location is your own computer's name. The rest of the setup is done in PostCast Server itself.

If for some reason you don't want to open an SMTP port then you won't be able to use Postcast Server or other similar SMTP software.

Leon · #6 Post by **Leon** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:46 am

I meant that most Internet Providers block the SMTP port from users to stop people from sending SPAM.

nikemen · #7 Post by **nikemen** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:16 pm

So, SMTP auth severs, should allow you to authenticate through any ISP or access method. Can you check with your providor to find out what the MSTP auth server address is?

#8 Post by **jdhurst** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:42 pm

It is a wee bit more complicated than that because of all the variations.

Almost universally, you cannot use one plain smtp server setting from ISP A at ISP B.

But my cable ISP has a remote SMTP setting that I can use in many, many places because the remote SMTP setting carries my userid and password as authentication. I *cannot* use this setting with the local DSL supplier (except in certain circumstances). Surely no consistency or uniformity.
... JD Hurst

MadeInJapan · #9 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:41 pm

Well, you guys are hung up on your own ISP. Can you use Hotmail? Yes, because it's web based, right? PostCast Server bounces your email off of their IP (like sending email through hotmail, et al) after you send your email to the Postcast Server software in your computer through Outlook Express's SMTP setting (you could use any email client for that matter). I guess that's the easiest way to explain it...so it doesn't matter what ISP you're using or not using...your email goes out as if it's been sent from your regular email address.

By the way, I have a "dummy" email address in Outlook Express that I send email from. I get no email coming into that email account at all. All email that comes to that address is automatically re-directed to my regular email account, but when I get it, I know it's business related and so when I respond to it, I automatically select the "dummy" account to send from. I don't know if this makes sense, but it helps me keep all of my email in one place...much easier when I sync. my laptop with my desktop, etc. With the dummy email, even at home I use PostCast Server because my ISP won't allow email to be sent from some unauthorized email account. It works very well. If the recepient of that email were to look at the properties of what they receive, they will see some strange SMTP stuff...postcast server, the IP address they bounce the email off of, etc., before the email is delivered to them. Anyway, I know it works at home and on the road, ie: at hotels, with my cell phone as a modem, etc., so I keep using it.

kylake · #10 Post by **kylake** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:53 pm

Since I am the guy who started this thread. Let me say thanks for all the help . I will look into the server you suggested Made in Japan. It sounds like it might do the trick for me.
Thanks to all of you for all your help. You all have certainly given me alot of knowledge about sending email from an enviornment not accociated with my/your normal ISP. It is quite interesting that most ISP do not allow SMTP from there account but do allow POP (if you are using a wireless account at a cafe or another place).

MadeInJapan · #11 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:59 pm

PM me if you download the program and you have trouble. Initially the settings in it can be a little finicky....but once you get the hang of using it, it's a breeze. Also, been using the free version for about 2 years. Haven't seen a need to buy it...the free does everything I want to do.

Leon · #12 Post by **Leon** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:10 am

Mark me "still confused".

My ISP, like many blocks Port 25 (SMTP). If the ISP you are using to send (at home, on the the road, or otherwise), blocks Port 25, then I see no way any program can send mail (unless you use a SOCKS Server). The free version of Postcast does not allow you to enter a SOCKS server. If you have found a way to send mail with Postcast (free version) when the ISP being used is blocking Port 25, then please let us know!

kylake, Welcome to our Forum. Please add Location and other relevant information to your profile. Not required, but appreciated.

kylake · #13 Post by **kylake** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:34 pm

Leon, I updated my profile as you requested but it is still pretty empty...guess I am an empty person........LOL

MadeInJapan · #14 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:50 pm

Leon,
Obsiously we aren't on the same wave length. When you use the SMTP settings in Outlook express (or any other email client) along with Postcast Server, you aren't actually using your ISP (that's the beauty of it) to send the SMTP email. You are sending the email to the program within windows (I'll say it again...nothing to do with SMTP through your own ISP). Then, Postcast sends it on, like, as if it were Pop3 email....although I'm not sure if it's actually Pop3.

Postcast Server isn't the only program out there that can do this. When I was in Japan and living in a hotel for a week a few years ago (before I learned about Postcast), I was hooked into a cable that went directly to the internet by way of fiber optics (thus no ISP or server at all). The hotel IT tech turned me onto a little known program called, "Daikon Kun." The icon on my desktop looked like a long white Japanese radish...thus Daikon...but it had a 30 day free trial and I left Japan and had no need for it afterwards and uninstalled it. It too was a "SMTP Server" within my laptop that allowed me to send email as if I were still sending it from my home (same email address and same email return address).

Hope this make sense finally.

Yes, Postcast Server does use Port 25 as it's server port...that's from within my own computer...not to my ISP. Then it sends the email on through DNS Server IP Address by way of Port 53, at least these are what my settings in Postcast say.

MadeInJapan · #15 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:56 pm

kylake, Just west of Nashville, huh! Now the Lake part of your name make sense. That's a beautiful area through out! Nice to have you on the board. Guess you noticed that I'm from KnoxVegas! LOL

kylake · #16 Post by **kylake** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:20 pm

Made in Japan, Yes it is a beautiful area where I live, very rural and peaceful. I can see the lake if I stand on exactly the right part of my property...LOL

I talked to my ISP tech support and they do not support port 25 but as I read in you message to Leon it is port 25 in my computer not there base. So, I guess it will work.

I will download it tomorrow night.........late for me (tonight) as I get up at 4 am central. I am sure I will have more questions when I download and try to configure post server. I will use the free program as you have suggested works just fine.

Knoxville is a beautiful area too.........so close to The Smoky Mountians...a
really cool area.

MadeInJapan · #17 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:54 pm

Leon PM'ed me and possibly I have the workings of PostCast incorrectly "figured out" in my head. Evidently it does use Port 25, so if your ISP is blocking that, it may not work. One of the service providers on PostCast's list is one that is said to block port 25, but PostCast works anyway...so I don't know what's up.

I say that it may be worth giving it a try...if it doesn't work then you know why.

Sorry if I went on and on about how right I was and how confused Leon was...seems he knows more about ports and socket services than I do. The important thing is that we all learn from each other.

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