what "IBM software" is REQUIRED?

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ps24eva · #1 Post by **ps24eva** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:58 pm

My T43 came preloaed with a bunch of IBM crap.

Can someone tell me if I need any of this stuff?

#2 Post by **K. Eng** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:06 pm

Welcome to the forum, but remember to post your questions in the right forum!

#3 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:07 pm

It might be useful to show us what particular IBM app is "crap". The one that was (Update Connector) is long gone. The rest range from decent to excellent (Access Connections). What particular app are you unable to use? ... JD Hurst

Ground Loop · #4 Post by **Ground Loop** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:16 pm

Wait.. I nominate Message Center for the "crap" award.

The rest can stay.

Actually, I uninstalled Rescue&Recovery since I have other preferred backup solutions, and R&R kept popping up annoying "Did you change your password or install software?" windows.

The IBM Access Connections is awesome.
So is the Presentation Manager, for those of us that roam between different projectors often.
The rest ranges from "mostly harmless" (EasyEject?) to Neato (Hard Disk APS)

#5 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:16 pm

Ground Loop wrote:Wait.. I nominate Message Center for the "crap" award. The rest can stay.
<snip>

Yes, I forgot that one. Ranks right down at the bottom with Update Connector. Thanks.

I keep forgetting that I have Startup Cop V1.1 running which is no longer freely available. Sad, because Startup Cop does the best job I ever saw of permanently disabling things like ibmmessages from running. So I never see Message Center and I forgot about it.
... JD Hurst

motodude · #6 Post by **motodude** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:34 pm

jdhurst wrote:
Ground Loop wrote:Wait.. I nominate Message Center for the "crap" award. The rest can stay.
<snip>
Yes, I forgot that one. Ranks right down at the bottom with Update Connector. Thanks.

I keep forgetting that I have Startup Cop V1.1 running which is no longer freely available. Sad, because Startup Cop does the best job I ever saw of permanently disabling things like ibmmessages from running. So I never see Message Center and I forgot about it.
... JD Hurst

I just use msconfig, is startup cop better?

Ground Loop · #7 Post by **Ground Loop** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:18 pm

Something like R&R has tendrils everywhere, services, startup, DLLs...

Instead of dorking around with internal settings using msconfig, services.msc, and 3rd party tools, why not just Uninstall it using its own install tool?

You can always put it back by reinstalling it.

I'm finding that all the IBM tools are pretty easy to remove/reinstall, and it leaves the system in a better state than Disabling or shunting things..

#8 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:15 am

Startup Cop is much better than MSconfig because it allows your actions to be permanent and never bother you again about them. Another tool that is OK is Startcpl, but I like Startup Cop better. ... JD Hurst

Ground Loop · #9 Post by **Ground Loop** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:18 pm

I can't figure out the value in Screen Magnifier either.. why on earth would I want to drop my screen down to a painfully low resolution?

I must be missing something obvious, because it's proclaimed as a feature. What is it used for?

verktyg · #10 Post by **verktyg** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:59 pm

IBM/Sonic Record now and DLA are pretty lame also.

#11 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:27 pm

Ground Loop wrote:I can't figure out the value in Screen Magnifier either.. why on earth would I want to drop my screen down to a painfully low resolution?

I must be missing something obvious, because it's proclaimed as a feature. What is it used for?

I don't use it either, but people who are legally blind might use it. One of my friends is indeed legally blind, is a capable and successful tax auditor for the Federal Government and uses very, very low screen resolution to aid the very little sight he does have. ... JD Hurst

ps24eva · #12 Post by **ps24eva** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:30 pm

Ok

so none of the Ibm programs are required?

What about that hard drive protection program ( I forget what its called)

Please help me answer my original question:

which softwares are REQUIRED for the T43 to work properly?

Ground Loop · #13 Post by **Ground Loop** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:27 pm

ps24eva wrote:Please help me answer my original question:

which softwares are REQUIRED for the T43 to work properly?

You can probably best answer your own question through exploration and experimentation.

I believe you will find that NONE of the IBM software is required to install, boot, or use Windows XP. If the default Microsoft device drivers for critical parts like HD and ethernet work for you, then you're all set. You can thumb your nose at IBM and download nothing at all.

It's all "added value" stuff.. things to take advantage of extra features (APS) or make life easier (Managers).

ps24eva · #14 Post by **ps24eva** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:37 pm

Ground Loop wrote:
ps24eva wrote:Please help me answer my original question:

which softwares are REQUIRED for the T43 to work properly?
You can probably best answer your own question through exploration and experimentation.

I believe you will find that NONE of the IBM software is required to install, boot, or use Windows XP. If the default Microsoft device drivers for critical parts like HD and ethernet work for you, then you're all set. You can thumb your nose at IBM and download nothing at all.

It's all "added value" stuff.. things to take advantage of extra features (APS) or make life easier (Managers).

does everyone agree?

DavidNZ · #15 Post by **DavidNZ** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:40 pm

I agree. I only use Access Connections and Presentation Director with any great frequency, although I do use the Software Installer to check for new updates. Otherwise, I don't really use anything else.

Puttagee · #16 Post by **Puttagee** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:19 am

Ground Loop is correct, these programs are all added value stuff. It is all personal preference if you feel you have no use for it uninstall it.

pipspeak · #17 Post by **pipspeak** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:27 pm

I just looked through this thread as I grapple with IBM apps and wondered what DLA does?

Also, what is the best way of dealing with Rapid Restore? I want to keep the option of reinstalling the factory image on the HDD in an emergency but don't really want unneeded software running all the time. Can I uninstall R&R?

Also (again) is Update Connector required for the Software installer to work properly, or can I uninstall it with no worries?

#18 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:14 pm

pipspeak wrote:I just looked through this thread as I grapple with IBM apps and wondered what DLA does?

DLA stands for Drive Letter Access. If you want to use a CD/RW disk like a floppy or hard disk to copy programs to, this is the application to do it with. One downside is that you need a reader on the computer to read the CD/RW disk. It is read differently than a normal CD/R or CD-ROM.

pipspeak wrote:Also, what is the best way of dealing with Rapid Restore? I want to keep the option of reinstalling the factory image on the HDD in an emergency but don't really want unneeded software running all the time. Can I uninstall R&R?

If you have the Recovery CD set, you can always restore the hard drive to original. If you do, all data on the hard drive will be erased.

Rescue and Recovery is used with Rapid Restore Ultra 4.0. The way I understand it, Rescue and Recovery is way to boot up from the service partition (hidden partition), or from the Rescue Media CD, (I supposed it is used in Windows as well) to restore a backup made with the Rapid Restore Ultra 4.0 program. Supposedly you can also copy files off of a non booting hard disk to another media.

pipspeak wrote:Also (again) is Update Connector required for the Software installer to work properly, or can I uninstall it with no worries?

AFAIK you do not need this with the newer ThinkVantage Software Installer.

Procter · #19 Post by **Procter** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:02 pm

I just uninstall the power management and use battery maximiser instead which seems to be better and have the same or even more function than the power managemet. But when I ran the software installer, it marked this power management in yellow which stands for "highly recommended" I guess. Can I just uninstall it or it's necessary for the system to work, I haven't found anything wrong so far.

what "IBM software" is REQUIRED?

what "IBM software" is REQUIRED?

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