How do I install XP Pro?

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kuma · #1 Post by **kuma** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:40 am

I just got my new T42, I ordered it with XP home, and I have a copy of Pro, how do I update it? I've been spending the last hour updating all the drivers and Windows. What should I uninstall as far as Programs to speed up my computer? I'm going to be web surfing and word processing, and iTunes.

Thanks

nolifer · #2 Post by **nolifer** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:33 am

I'd say you can't update Home -> Pro. You just need to reinstall it.

#3 Post by **jdhurst** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:19 am

If your XP Pro upgrade CD is SP2, there should be no problem in upgrading it (I have done just this on a desktop computer).
... JD Hurst

krosenstein · #4 Post by **krosenstein** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:34 pm

I've read many places that the rule of thumb with Windows was to avoid upgrading, although I'm sure many have done so successfully.

Website · #5 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:38 pm

I would agree on not upgrading, versus a fresh install. I feel that it makes it much easier to back track and fix any problems that might arise.

Having said that, it is a personal preference based on your own needs.

kuma · #6 Post by **kuma** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:22 pm

ok how do I do a fresh install?
Just load in the XP Pro cd?
and then Load the IBM cds and go from there?
Also what programs should I not install that I don't need?
As for Security programs I've heard that Norton eats CPU, I have another program PC-cillin Internet Security 2005, should I install this and not Norton?

Thank you.

Website · #7 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:15 pm

You can just put the XP Pro Cd in and install. Once that is done, I don't know if your IBM Cds will work or not, but you can go to IBM's Website and Download the Software Installer and it will add anything from IBM that you'd like. You will be able to pick and choose what you want installed, thus allowing you to avoid any "fluff", as some users call it.

kuma · #8 Post by **kuma** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:33 pm

tfflivemb2 wrote:You can just put the XP Pro Cd in and install. Once that is done, I don't know if your IBM Cds will work or not, but you can go to IBM's Website and Download the Software Installer and it will add anything from IBM that you'd like. You will be able to pick and choose what you want installed, thus allowing you to avoid any "fluff", as some users call it.

Ok the CD is an "upgrade" meaning I have to have my home cd, to make ure it is a purchased version. But I just looked in the box of my computer and it doesn't come with any CDs at all. What should I do about this?

krosenstein · #9 Post by **krosenstein** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:22 am

The best guide for a clean install can be found at:

http://www.4saad.com/WhatsNew/Fresh_XP_ ... /index.htm

#10 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:02 pm

First you want to 'Create Recovery discs' also called 'Create Product Recovery discs'. The first instance is in Start > All Programs > Access IBM > Create Recovery discs. The second instance is in Start > All Programs > ThinkVantage > Create Recovery Media. It takes about 6-7 CD/R's or one CD/R and one DVD+-R (if you have a DVD burner). Note that the above Recovery Discs only restore your ThinkPad to 'Factory State'. Anytime you use them, they erase all existing data on your hard drive.

What you need to do after you create the disks above is use your upgrade CD on your existing Windows installation. You will be given the option to reformat your hard drive if you want to do a clean installation. Next you need to go to IBM's driver site to download your IBM software and drivers. Note that some software is not available for download. AFAIK, it is located in the C:\IBMTOOLS and C:\SWTOOLS directories on your existing hard drive. It would be a good idea to backup your existing hard drive before installing XP Pro, just in case you need some of the existing software, or your existing data files.

kuma · #11 Post by **kuma** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:52 am

Thank you very much. This seems like enough for me, I don't think I'm going to do the Clean install from UCI_Mech on http://www.4saad.com/WhatsNew/Fresh_XP_ ... /index.htm
bc it seems very over whelming to me.
If I do what you suggest will I be able to not install Norton, AOL, and all the other programs that I don't want?

Thanks.

kuma · #12 Post by **kuma** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:28 pm

So when I was installing it asked to copy the files from i386, or to add files from start up disk. I checked the start up disk option. Then when I get to the option of where to add the XP pro i can choose either the hidden partion or the larger. It asks if I want to delete either, I said no, then it said that my computer would not run properly if I had two operating systems on the same partion. Should I earse the partition that had Home edition on it?

kuma · #13 Post by **kuma** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:54 pm

I can't seem to fix this...
Now when ever I boot up it asks me to choose between Pro and Home. How do I get rid of this? I just want to XP Pro, and nothing else, and when I do try and load to Pro it says it is missing a a file and the instalation is corrupt.
I have made all 6 disks of the Recovery disks from my IBM Product Recovery disks. And a DVD of the Drivers, Tools, Programs, and Tools.

What should I do?

dsvochak · #14 Post by **dsvochak** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:13 pm

Let's go through this slowly. It sounds like the appropriate thing to do is start over. If any of the following is not clear, please post any questions before you do anything.

1. I'm assuming you don't have any data on the machine that isn't backed up. If you do, back it up somewhere

2. Restore the system to it's original state using the F11 option at boot, "Rescue & Restore" (I'm guessing because I've never seen what it says) off the Start --> All Programs --> Thinkvantage or --> Access IBM or something. Or you could use the recovery disks you created (which would be my last choice). Restoring will eliminate the XP Pro choice and you will be back to XP Home as the machine was delivered. Got no idea how long a restore will take, but it could be awhile.

3. When the restore is completed, boot the machine into XP Home.

4. jdhurst is correct, if the XP Pro CD is SP2, there should be no problem in upgrading

5. Put the XP Pro CD into the drive. A screen should come up asking if you want to upgrade your existing installation. Answer yes. You may have to enter the XP Pro CD key and answer some other questions. One of the questions may be whether you want to keep the previous installation (in your case XP Home). If so, answer no.

If it asks whether you want to overwrite your previous operating system (which is XP Home) answer yes.

6. The installation program runs for awhile, may re-boot a few times, and eventually, the XP Pro upgrade should replace the current XP Home installation.

7. Regarding "not installing Norton, AOL, and all the other programs" you don't want, after the upgrade to XP Pro is complete go to Start-->Control Panel-->Add or Remove Programs. You'll get a list of the software installed on the machine. If you want to get rid of Norton, for example, highlight the Norton line, click the "Change/Remove" button at the far right and the uninstaller will begin to run. You can use the same process for any other program you want to uninstall.

8. Regarding your other thread about MS Office, you can use 1 copy of retail Office on 1 machine at a time so as long as it's removed from the other machine you're okay.

Finally, to repeat, If any of the above is not clear, please post any questions before you do anything.

kuma · #15 Post by **kuma** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:12 pm

dsvochak wrote:Let's go through this slowly. It sounds like the appropriate thing to do is start over. If any of the following is not clear, please post any questions before you do anything.

1. I'm assuming you don't have any data on the machine that isn't backed up. If you do, back it up somewhere

2. Restore the system to it's original state using the F11 option at boot, "Rescue & Restore" (I'm guessing because I've never seen what it says) off the Start --> All Programs --> Thinkvantage or --> Access IBM or something. Or you could use the recovery disks you created (which would be my last choice). Restoring will eliminate the XP Pro choice and you will be back to XP Home as the machine was delivered. Got no idea how long a restore will take, but it could be awhile.

3. When the restore is completed, boot the machine into XP Home.

4. jdhurst is correct, if the XP Pro CD is SP2, there should be no problem in upgrading

5. Put the XP Pro CD into the drive. A screen should come up asking if you want to upgrade your existing installation. Answer yes. You may have to enter the XP Pro CD key and answer some other questions. One of the questions may be whether you want to keep the previous installation (in your case XP Home). If so, answer no.

If it asks whether you want to overwrite your previous operating system (which is XP Home) answer yes.

6. The installation program runs for awhile, may re-boot a few times, and eventually, the XP Pro upgrade should replace the current XP Home installation.

7. Regarding "not installing Norton, AOL, and all the other programs" you don't want, after the upgrade to XP Pro is complete go to Start-->Control Panel-->Add or Remove Programs. You'll get a list of the software installed on the machine. If you want to get rid of Norton, for example, highlight the Norton line, click the "Change/Remove" button at the far right and the uninstaller will begin to run. You can use the same process for any other program you want to uninstall.

8. Regarding your other thread about MS Office, you can use 1 copy of retail Office on 1 machine at a time so as long as it's removed from the other machine you're okay.

Finally, to repeat, If any of the above is not clear, please post any questions before you do anything.

Thank you SO MUCH! Very helpful, I'm not infront of my computer right now I'm trying to study.
But I think one of my problems is that whenever I do the BIOS, it asks for my password. Which I have never set. And when I do try and enter the password that I set for everything else it doesn't work. How do I set my BIOS password? I've set my wake from sleep password.
I'm sorry that I'm so naive on all this but I've been with an iBook for the last few years. I just want to set this up and forget about it.

Thanks.

XP pro CD is SP2

dsvochak · #16 Post by **dsvochak** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:09 pm

But I think one of my problems is that whenever I do the BIOS, it asks for my password. Which I have never set. And when I do try and enter the password that I set for everything else it doesn't work. How do I set my BIOS password? I've set my wake from sleep password.

The above is a little confusing.

There are three possible IBM passwords. Those are a "power on" password, a "hard disk" password and a "supervisor" password. If, when you turn on the machine (probably after the IBM logo screen), you don't see a symbol that looks like a padlock and a blinking cursor (that is, if you turn on the machine and let it run it boots into Windows) no IBM passwords are set.

If no IBM passwords are set, you can get instructions which explain the differences between the 3 passwords and how to set them in the on-line manual under "Security".

If you are getting the padlock and blinking curser, but you've never entered one of the IBM passwords you have a whole different problem. If that's the case, let us know as soon as possible.

For now, let's deal with one problem at a time. If the machine will boot into Windows without the padlock problem, go ahead and restore to the original configuration and upgrade to XP Pro as I previously outlined.

Once that's taken care of, read the information regarding the IBM passwords and if you have questions feel free to ask.

kuma · #17 Post by **kuma** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:30 pm

dsvochak wrote:
But I think one of my problems is that whenever I do the BIOS, it asks for my password. Which I have never set. And when I do try and enter the password that I set for everything else it doesn't work. How do I set my BIOS password? I've set my wake from sleep password.
The above is a little confusing.

There are three possible IBM passwords. Those are a "power on" password, a "hard disk" password and a "supervisor" password. If, when you turn on the machine (probably after the IBM logo screen), you don't see a symbol that looks like a padlock and a blinking cursor (that is, if you turn on the machine and let it run it boots into Windows) no IBM passwords are set.

If no IBM passwords are set, you can get instructions which explain the differences between the 3 passwords and how to set them in the on-line manual under "Security".

If you are getting the padlock and blinking curser, but you've never entered one of the IBM passwords you have a whole different problem. If that's the case, let us know as soon as possible.

For now, let's deal with one problem at a time. If the machine will boot into Windows without the padlock problem, go ahead and restore to the original configuration and upgrade to XP Pro as I previously outlined.

Once that's taken care of, read the information regarding the IBM passwords and if you have questions feel free to ask.

You rock, I was beginning to question my purchase of a PC. But knowing that there is such strong Thinkpad forum help makes me think I'll be keeping this machine. I talked to phone support about this and they couldn't seem to figure it out, though the guy seemed to take his sweet time, like he was waiting for me to answer my own questions. But he was stumped so he told me to take it to GCI systems, on Monday. Luckily I have another computer. I hope that it is some easy problem for them to fix.
Thank you again for all your help.
I'll update as soon as I get my TP back.

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