After Mini PCI installed...Problem...

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dsigma6 · #1 Post by **dsigma6** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:41 pm

Ok folks- I've been looking at info to fix the mini PCI card issue that has been tackled here and elsewhere a million times. I am not getting anywhere.

After failing to figure out creating a bootable floppy-->cd, I stumbled on this site, where a guy put together the bootable cd for all the rest of us to use...

http://www.command-tab.com/2006/02/26/u ... ess-cards/

I unzip the file, which is a .iso, and use Nero 6 to burn it. I burned as a bootable cd, this is correct? I don't see why I'd burn an iso image as an iso image. There are advanced settings with segment sectors, and I saw a site today that said something about changing the values- I can't find it.

Please, if anyone can easily guide me along it would be so much appreciated. A whopping $5 paypal payment to the person who gets this to work! (hey, I know you're tired of giving free advice!)

Thanks,
Dan

#2 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:51 pm

You might be in the same boat as me. I have Nero 6 Express OEM edition. This is a "lite" version of Nero 6. There are many features missing from the OEM edition. At least this is what I think. I do not have the Nero 6 Ultra version to compare.

Nero 6 FAQ wrote:1. I have an OEM version of Nero that does not contain all features of Nero 6. What do I do?

As you purchased Nero with a recorder, you have an OEM version that can only be used with that single recorder. OEM versions are limited versions, which do not contain all features. The manufacturer of the recorder decides about the features which will be implemented in the Nero OEM version. That means your version of Nero does not include all features of the full (= retail) version.

FTR: I have a copy of Nero Burning ROM 4 that has a plethora of features. Nero Express 6 OEM has only a fraction of them.

There are many Nero users on this forum. Hopefully another Nero user with more information will answer your post.

Website · #3 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:30 pm

I would just try going to www.bootdisk.com and download the Win98SE boot disk. Create the CD with the files that you get. Once you create the CD, then boot your system (R40?) with the disk, then swap the disk with your no_1802.com file disk (unless you can put it on the same disk as the win98SE disk). Then just type in the command No_1802.com, then remove the CD, and restart your system with the Mini-PCI card attached.

dsigma6 · #4 Post by **dsigma6** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:18 am

so create a bootable cd containing the files from the win 98se boot disk, or will burning a bootable disc as a regular cd make it bootable?

and to burning no_1802.com on another disc- would that be a bootable disc as well?

thanks, im looking forward to paying you!

#5 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:49 am

The information in the following article from Maximum PC describes how to make a bootable CD. Skip down to Step 6 to see the CD burning process.

http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html

Website · #6 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:56 am

dsigma6 wrote:so create a bootable cd containing the files from the win 98se boot disk, or will burning a bootable disc as a regular cd make it bootable?

and to burning no_1802.com on another disc- would that be a bootable disc as well?

thanks, im looking forward to paying you!

Yes, unless you have a floppy drive which would make it easier without wasting CDs. If you need a floppy drive let me know, I have several extras.

If you do the CD option, then make sure that when you boot from the WIn98SE boot CD, that you choose the option to boot with CD capability.

#7 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:31 am

FWIW, when I was attempting to make a bootable slipstreamed CD, I started off burning coasters. Later I got wise and started using a CD/RW CD. That way I could keep using the same CD over and over until I got it right. Once I had the process down, then I burned to a CD/R. CD/R's are more stable and reliable than CD/RW's.

dsigma6 · #8 Post by **dsigma6** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:33 am

im going to try this, but i stlll have that feeling ill put the cd in and boot, and nothing will happen...

do you have to set the cd drive to boot first, or dose a bootable cd automatically do that?

last night i did change the bios to boot cd first, and got into some A: prompt that wasnt very helpful with my experience level, and with no A: drive!

im still looking for the mini pci that actually works with the r40 without having to be a computer programmer. if you know a model number for one that isnt $5000 let me know!

440roadrunner · #9 Post by **440roadrunner** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:22 pm

You need to set the bios "boot order"

Also, some burned CD's won't read in all drives. I used to have trouble with my old 380XD--it would read all factory cd's perfectly, but not some "burned" ones.

dsigma6 · #10 Post by **dsigma6** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:03 pm

guys im going absolutely insane. ive been seconds away from putting my fist through this stupid computer about 5 times. but then i think about it...

i finally got a cd to boot. it says A:\ but i think its just tricked itself into that, because it shows the files on that drive, but its really the cd drive. so as per instructions, i insert a second cd only with the no_1802.iso file on it, burned as a data disc. it said some write protect error, abort, retry, etc...so i hit R, but the cursor just kept blinking.

someone out there, bring it home!!!!

Try copying the file to the C: drive, then type "no_1802.com".

#11 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:10 pm

You've got a tricky problem. If it's trying to write to the CD, I don't think that's possible if the disc is closed. Also, data on CD's is read only unless you are using packet writing software. You can't load the packet writing software without Windows. A floppy or USB key would solve those problems.

If it can't write to the CMOS, check the BIOS settings. You might need to go to the BIOS setup menu and Enable the Flash BIOS option.

Access IBM Help wrote:If you select "Enabled," all users can update the Flash BIOS. If you select "Disabled," only the person who knows supervisor password can update the Flash BIOS.

dsigma6 · #12 Post by **dsigma6** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:30 pm

i guess ill wait for a floppy- even though at that point ill still probably be threatening my laptop with obscenities. i just got this thing and dont want to kill it that quick!

thanks.

#13 Post by **bill bolton** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:41 pm

dsigma6 wrote:I unzip the file, which is a .iso, and use Nero 6 to burn it.

I used that approach when solving my 1802 problem and had no problems. IIRC, I used the Sonic "RecordNow!" application that came with my T41 to burn the ISO image to a bootable CD.

Cheers,

Bill

dsigma6 · #14 Post by **dsigma6** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:46 pm

since my first restart after the mini pci card installed, windows starts- my background comes up, and it makes the windows start noise- then there is nothing but the background for about 2 minutes. then the tray and desktop icons pop up...then i click on something and its taking MINUTES for my selection to open.

a problem i think! lol.

Website · #15 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Fri May 19, 2006 10:18 pm

You can always try uninstalling and then reinstalling the drivers. I think that you installed your drivers before having the card in. I am not sure that it will help, but who knows.

unicorn · #16 Post by **unicorn** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:14 am

dsigma6 wrote:Ok folks- I've been looking at info to fix the mini PCI card issue that has been tackled here and elsewhere a million times. I am not getting anywhere.

After failing to figure out creating a bootable floppy-->cd, I stumbled on this site, where a guy put together the bootable cd for all the rest of us to use...

http://www.command-tab.com/2006/02/26/u ... ess-cards/

I unzip the file, which is a .iso, and use Nero 6 to burn it. I burned as a bootable cd, this is correct? I don't see why I'd burn an iso image as an iso image. There are advanced settings with segment sectors, and I saw a site today that said something about changing the values- I can't find it.

Please, if anyone can easily guide me along it would be so much appreciated. A whopping $5 paypal payment to the person who gets this to work! (hey, I know you're tired of giving free advice!)

Thanks,
Dan

I had the same problem. I hope that, I can share my experience with you. My T40 was assembled a Cissco 2200b. So, I bought a intel 2200bg in a computer shop and didn't think about black or white list card.

So, after the card was installed the display required remove the card to boot normally.
But you shouldn't remove it. You can disable it in the cmos. Then the latop will run normally.

Then I maked a USB flash bootable disk. We should forget floppy and CD bootdisks. There are many methods. But the simplest is use the HP bootable flash utility. It not only works with HP flashdisks but also others.
http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/ ... _driv.html

I only lost 1.44 MB of my flashdisk to change it to a bootable flashdisk. The remain space I copied every think I want "read NTFS, NC.exe..." and the no-1802.exe dos software to make the latop accept all MPCI cards (there are many orther methods you can find in this forum). It took 1 minute to do everything.

Then I restart the laptop. Push the Access IBM button to chose booting from the flashdisk, run file no-1802, back to cmos enable wifi card, restart

Windows showed a popup installing a new hardware, after the installing is successful. The wifi card worked perfectlly.

But when I installed a software from IBM "ThinkVantage Access connections" the connecting status was often blocked out. So, the windows driver is good enough, easy control, and more frendly than IBM software interface.

dsigma6 · #17 Post by **dsigma6** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:32 am

i got the 1802 hack working with a bootable cd, and moreso the help of tfflivemb2.

the only problems i had after that were the ac/windows conflict in controlling the wireless, and for me disabling ac and using cisco to run off windows has worked flawlessly.

toad · #18 Post by **toad** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:51 am

Right, I shared dsigma6's anguish.

I managed to find a win98 startup cd, downloaded and burnt it. I also burnt the the no_1802.com patch on a different cd, booted up with the start-up disk with cd-rom support, slipped the patch cd in and nothing would work

Fortunately, it did not hose my system...

More googling, more homework and I found the wickedest solution to them all, a 4.4MB iso of a linux cd whose whole purpose in life is to get rid of the 1802 error (having said that, there was also another option for a different bios error, but I cannot remember which).

More info here http://blog.german-connection.org/index ... error.html

A little more research from my side and it appears to be the same iso image dsigma6 was talking about... No idea about the nero problems as I burnt it with K3b (Linux) which worked a treat!

#19 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:00 am

In Nero 6 select burn DiskImage and all should go well. Don't understand all those problems.

#20 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:14 am

realblackstuff wrote:In Nero 6 select burn DiskImage and all should go well. Don't understand all those problems.

Yeah, I found that out later. Data > Make Bootable Disc does not make a bootable CD from a CD .iso image. Copy and Backup > Burn Image to Disc does.

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