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#31 Post by coolsilicon » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:26 am

Badger,
maybe I wasn't clear enough. A while ago I installed that Beta BIOS and short after that had a bluescreen while burning a DVD-RW under XP. At that time I didn't investigate this any further since I was busy with other things. I just installed my old BIOS again and didn't think of that issue any more.

Now that you were going to install that Beta BIOS, I remembered and thought I let you know that /maybe/ you should look closely at how the Beta BIOS would behave. Anyway, I don't really think the BS I encountered was related to the BIOS, but due to XP messed up a little bit. I will do a clean install when I have the time to do so and I will also install the Beta BIOS again in order to check that out thoroughly.
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#32 Post by Badger » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:03 am

Well the Bios update ended up going fine and still everything looks okay. I went ahead and installed Power Manager for XP onto Vista and it appears to be working, although I seem to remember being able to select what speed the CPU worked at in XP and I don't see those options now.

I also installed IBM's Atheros wireless card drivers. This allowed me to switch from the default "low" output under the powersaving mode to XP's default "normal". This also made my connection normal (I am now at 100% signal strength where I should be, as in, Vista now reports my signal the same as XP and Acess Connections did).

I'm going to try XP's Access Connections right now.

EDIT: yeahhhh... Vista and Access Connections aren't getting along very well. at all.

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#33 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:19 am

Badger wrote:I went ahead and installed Power Manager for XP onto Vista and it appears to be working, although I seem to remember being able to select what speed the CPU worked at in XP and I don't see those options now.
Double-click on the battery icon in the notification area, choose Tell me more about power plans. Go to the bottom, and under See Also, click on What's new in managing power settings. Scroll about halfway down to the chart with the three Power plans. The text in that chart explains how the CPU speed is affected in each Power plan under AC power and under Battery power. There are three speeds, much as in XP; Adaptive, Slow, and Maximum.

EDIT: Also, if you create or change a Power Plan, after you get to the first settings change page, click on Change advanced power settings. There you can change a multitude of settings.
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#34 Post by coolsilicon » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:05 pm

Also, if you create or change a Power Plan, after you get to the first settings change page, click on Change advanced power settings. There you can change a multitude of settings.
There you in fact get to the interesting part of it. Anyway, the interface is pretty scary. Another point that could be improved /vastly/, just like EasyTransfer, which is a joke, IMHO, interface wise.
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#35 Post by Badger » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:17 pm

Yeah they sure don't make it easy to find that stuff, but thank you for pointing me in that direction.

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#36 Post by DAH » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:43 pm

OK I downloaded and burned RC2, I installed it on my T60p, with the newest BIOS 2.01 79ETC1WW. And every time I try to go to the IBM vista drivers page, Internet Explorer crashes on me.

OK I thought that as ROM 2.01 is a 2.xx series it would incorporate the Vista changes. Not sure if it does or not, but I'm finding it very unstable, anyone else seeing this?

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#37 Post by dfumento » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:49 pm

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I have Vista RC1 and BIOS 2.01 (general release, not beta)

#38 Post by wallybear » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:00 pm

I have not had any crashing problems in any program, including IE. I've installed the Beta of OneCare Live and Nero 7.5 (Vista compatible). I've also installed Acrobat 7.08. I plan to download and install the Office 2007 Beta.

I'll report on any problems if I encounter them. So far, the general release BIOS 2.01 works fine with Vista on my T60.

I'm generally pleased with the performance but I know more RAM would help (I have 1GB, will have 2GB when I install the released Vista). I use a 512MB Crucial USB drive as a "ReadyBoost" cache. That made a noticable difference in program switching.
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#39 Post by arni » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:31 am

must be getting close to rtm.

lenovo updated their vista drivers downloadpage and also ati announced catalyst rtm drivers yesterday.

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#40 Post by ZPrime » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:17 am

Anyone have any luck with T42-series? I have a T42p with a FireGL T2 card, definitely supports DX9 and i'm running Vista RTM (MSDN account so I have it already).

not sure what drivers to use, there are builtins and they work but IME builtin drivers always suck.

Lenovo needs to get the various hotkey utils updated too, I want my FN+F5 back (i don't have a physical wireless switch the way the T60 does).
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T42 Display Flicker

#41 Post by dga » Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:40 am

Hi,

I am using a Thinkpad T42 (2373-VMH, 14.1" LCD, ATI 64MB, 1GB RAM, New Bios 3.21) with Windows Vista RTM. Everything works fine except that there seems to be a problem a problem with the display which flickers regularly. I was not able to determine a regularity, sometimes it occurs after a reboot, sometimes after a normal startup too.

The display driver installed is the one Vista recognized automatically (for Radeon 9600/9700 WDDM). The monitor is the "Generic Plug and Play Monitor". The display refresh rate is set to 50Hz which is the only available value. Installing the Thinkpad LCD Driver does not solve the problem. Also reducing color depth and resolution or disabling Aero Glass does not help.

I tested the Vista on another T42 (2373-CTO, 15.1" LCD, ATI 64MB, 1GB RAM, Old Bios 3.12) which has a 15.1" display. Everything works fine and the display refresh rate is set to 60Hz.

Maybe I have to try the older Bios-Version...

Any solution?

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#42 Post by techniware_au » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:44 am

dga,

Have you tried the ati released catalyst vista drivers? They suggest that the 9600 is supported.

www.ati.com

They don't work for my firegl, but might work for you.

Also, I am trying Powerstrip at the moment - forcing a refresh to a higher rate.

will let you know how it goes.

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#43 Post by dga » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:27 am

Yes, I tried the original ATI driver too, but the monitor flickered...

Please let me know if it works.

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#44 Post by zyphria » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:54 pm

Still no updated System Update application? Tsk tsk Lenovo...

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#45 Post by dga » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:03 am

Seems that the automatically installed Windows Vista Thinkpad Powermanagement Driver does not work:

Event-Manager:

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Log Name:      Application
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-ApplicationExperienceInfrastructure
Date:          01.12.2006 10:36:38
Event ID:      1
Task Category: None
Level:         Warning
Keywords:      
User:          SYSTEM
Computer:      xx.domainname
Description:
The application (ThinkPad Power Management Service, from vendor Lenovo) has the following problem: ThinkPad Power Management Service is incompatible with this version of Windows. For more information, contact Lenovo.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-ApplicationExperienceInfrastructure" Guid="xx" />
    <EventID>1</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>3</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>2</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2006-12-01T09:36:38.968Z" />
    <EventRecordID>826</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="832" ThreadID="836" />
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>xx.domainname</Computer>
    <Security UserID="xx" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="DBType">15</Data>
    <Data Name="AppNameCount">34</Data>
    <Data Name="AppName">ThinkPad Power Management Service</Data>
    <Data Name="VendorNameCount">7</Data>
    <Data Name="VendorName">Lenovo</Data>
    <Data Name="SummaryCount">118</Data>
    <Data Name="Summary">ThinkPad Power Management Service is incompatible with this version of Windows. For more information, contact Lenovo.</Data>
    <Data Name="SessionID">0</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>
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#46 Post by ZPrime » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:23 am

I'm having problems with the power management driver as well - no crashes, but issues resuming from hibernate and sometimes suspend. I'm seeing the same error you quoted in the Application eventlog.

hibernate is the worst - it will come up, but the display will stay "dark" except for hte mouse pointer. If I look real hard I can see windows and the taskbar in the background, and clicking stuff WORKS, but there's no way to make it "brighten up" other than rebooting. What's odd is that when I tell it to restart, it will come back to normal for a split second while showing the "vista is shutting down" screen, but then it goes back to dark for a while before rebooting as normal.
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#47 Post by DAH » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:42 pm

Well It seems to have killed my battery :evil: I get simply a yellow flashing battery icon, when I click on it I get the battery is fully charged, with out AC the battery will not power the T60.
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#48 Post by noetus » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:13 am

Does Vista RTM mean Release To Manufacturing or Return to Manufacturer?

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#49 Post by DAH » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:08 pm

noetus wrote:Does Vista RTM mean Release To Manufacturing or Return to Manufacturer?
It's suppose to mean Release To Manufacturing and it has many more drivers included with it than any other release of windows.
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#50 Post by noetus » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:23 am

DAH wrote:
noetus wrote:Does Vista RTM mean Release To Manufacturing or Return to Manufacturer?
It's suppose to mean Release To Manufacturing and it has many more drivers included with it than any other release of windows.
It was a weak attempt at a joke... :roll:

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#51 Post by Aramitz » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:53 am

GomJabbar wrote:As far as Opera in XP goes, horizontal scrolling worked with version 8.x. It has not worked with version 9. I have Opera version 9 in my Vista install, and horizontal scrolling still doesn't work. I have to admit I really didn't expect it to.

Christopher_Wolf found out recently (courtesy of ramian) that it can work in Opera 9 (and I suspect Firefox as well) if the middle button is set to "smooth scrolling". I personally have not tried this. I believe I prefer the default behavior when the scroll style is set to "Standard". See thread below.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=28902
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#52 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:27 am

Aramitz wrote:
GomJabbar wrote:Christopher_Wolf found out recently (courtesy of ramian) that it can work in Opera 9 (and I suspect Firefox as well) if the middle button is set to "smooth scrolling"....

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=28902
Since the above quote is several months old, I want to restate FTR, C.W. replied to my post above with the following:
christopher_wolf wrote:Nnnno, that part I knew already; read it again. I thought he had gotten it to work with the default Thinkpad Scroll and *not* the Smooth scroll; which is simply an emulation of a middle mouse button and the default *Windows* four-way scroller. That I have known for awhile. <snip>
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Re: T42 Display Flicker

#53 Post by dga » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:44 am

dga wrote: Everything works fine except that there seems to be a problem a problem with the display which flickers regularly.
There is a new ATI driver available. Seems that this problem has been solved! http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vist ... sta32.html

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t43p + vista RTM + driver video

#54 Post by u.vivarelli » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:03 am

I've a problem; In lenovo' site I read that for my graphic card (FireGL v3200) I must use video driver of windows vista
""
The following drivers are included with the Windows Vista operating system:

* Audio
* Bluetooth
* Video (not listed above)
* Wireless
""

I've tried windows vista' driver, ati driver, catalys driver, and my OS work fine, but I think than OpenGL don't work very well.

This is a screenshot of a cinema4D test

www.p04.it/screen.jpg

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Re: T42 Display Flicker

#55 Post by aamsel » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:39 pm

Are those drivers for use on a Thinkpad?
I had understood that Catalyst drivers on ATI's site were just for use with desktop adapters?

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dga wrote: Everything works fine except that there seems to be a problem a problem with the display which flickers regularly.
There is a new ATI driver available. Seems that this problem has been solved! http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vist ... sta32.html

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#56 Post by kay.one » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:49 pm

i think this post should be unstikied too, since most of the final drivers are out from lenovo and this thread has seen no activity since december

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