is the t60 compatible with windows vista

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pheebz · #1 Post by **pheebz** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:41 am

is the t60 compatible with windows vista ultimate or would there be features i wont b able to run if i get the ultimate version?

jeffm · #2 Post by **jeffm** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:47 am

In gerneral, the T60 is Vista compatible. However, if you have less than 2GB of RAM and an integrated graphics card, don't expect to get the "Glass" interface. A T7200 or better processor would help too.

pheebz · #3 Post by **pheebz** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:01 am

i got 512 ram n a x1300 videocard... so u think i should just stick with xp?

BudC · #4 Post by **BudC** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:20 am

You can download and execute Windows Vista Upgrade Adviser. It will show you what you should be able to run.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc ... visor.mspx

arni · #5 Post by **arni** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:12 am

With only 512mb ram don't even think of installing vista. You would end with a system that's too slow for real work.

For vista you would be good to have at lease 1gb better 2gb of ram.

Army Chief · #6 Post by **Army Chief** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:14 am

Yes, absolutely. I did the upgrade just over a week ago, and while there were some initial drivers issues (mostly because I hadn't done enough research), things went extremely well overall.

Vista -- at least, Vista Business -- runs quite well on a reasonably well-equipped T60. Go to the Vista board here on the forum and look for the sticky that will take you to the drivers link for our machines. Also, if you want to save yourself a lot of headaches, read the installation notes, particularly those that pertain to removing Sonic DLA software BEFORE you upgrade.

I'm still working though a minor security device issue, but all in all, the upgrade was pretty effortless for a new OS release.

One final caveat: don't be a moron (like me) who grows accustomed to logging on to Windows via the fingerprint reader month after month, and then forgets the original Windows user account password. There are ways around this, but during the initial boot, Vista will require the actual password -- not a fingerprint scan -- and this is a lousy time to realize that you don't remember it quite as well as you thought that you did.

Vista and the T60 are wholly compatible, but do a bit of homework anyway.

Chief

Army Chief · #7 Post by **Army Chief** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:16 am

I should probably have added that, on my base 1GB RAM, Vista Aero is running well. I'll upgrade at some point, anyway, but it isn't a necessity by any means.

Chief

Chrispy · #8 Post by **Chrispy** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:21 am

I made the mistake of installing Vista before my 1GB ram upgrade arrived and it was SLOOOOOW. Also, even the GMA 950 is supposed to support Aero as long as you have over a gig of ram. I have not tested this yet but I will try after my memory arrives.

#9 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:25 am

jeffm wrote:In gerneral, the T60 is Vista compatible. However, if you have less than 2GB of RAM and an integrated graphics card, don't expect to get the "Glass" interface. A T7200 or better processor would help too.

Bzzzzzzt. The GMA 950 integrated graphics chipset does support Aero (aka "Glass"). And 2 GB is certainly not required; 1 GB runs very nicely, thank you.

jeffm · #10 Post by **jeffm** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:58 am

Bzzzzzzt. The GMA 950 integrated graphics chipset does support Aero (aka "Glass"). And 2 GB is certainly not required; 1 GB runs very nicely, thank you.

Well, I'm glad it works for you. In my experience Glass was too slow with less than 2GB RAM on a GMA 950.

Bzzzzzzt? Sheesh.

#11 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:33 pm

If you say "I found Aero to run too slowly with integrated graphics", you are stating an opinion, and I have no issue with that.

If you say "Aero will not run with integrated graphics" (essentially what you originally posted), you are simply incorrect, and that merits a bzzzzt.

(That said, multiple posters here have run Aero on the GMA 950 integrated graphics without performance complaints ...)

jeffm · #12 Post by **jeffm** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:18 pm

If you say "I found Aero to run too slowly with integrated graphics", you are stating an opinion, and I have no issue with that.

You're absolutely right. I should have been more clear.

CarrerCrytharis · #13 Post by **CarrerCrytharis** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:55 pm

I tried it once on my system: as far as performance goes, it was fine (although I have a T7200, 2GB RAM and an X1400 -- then again, it also ran fairly well on my old Dell D610 with 1GB RAM and an X300).

However, battery life was cut almost in half. I'm not sure if that was because of the absence of fully-featured ThinkPad power software and drivers for Vista, or because of Aero Glass, but whatever the cause, it was my main reason for switching back to XP. I've gotten too used to having 6 hours of battery life, to have it cut down to 3.

There were also driver issues, mainly with some of the extra features and stuff like the wifi switch and volume buttons. Also, the mouse pointer kept flickering whenever I used the scroll feature, which was annoying.

Chrispy · #14 Post by **Chrispy** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:32 pm

CarrerCrytharis wrote:However, battery life was cut almost in half. I'm not sure if that was because of the absence of fully-featured ThinkPad power software and drivers for Vista, or because of Aero Glass, but whatever the cause, it was my main reason for switching back to XP. I've gotten too used to having 6 hours of battery life, to have it cut down to 3.

This is a bit concerning

Have you tried turning off the Aero effect to see if that may be what is putting such a strain on your system to cut the battery life down like that?

#15 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:47 pm

CarrerCrytharis wrote:I tried it once on my system: as far as performance goes, it was fine (although I have a T7200, 2GB RAM and an X1400 -- then again, it also ran fairly well on my old Dell D610 with 1GB RAM and an X300).

However, battery life was cut almost in half. I'm not sure if that was because of the absence of fully-featured ThinkPad power software and drivers for Vista, or because of Aero Glass, but whatever the cause, it was my main reason for switching back to XP. I've gotten too used to having 6 hours of battery life, to have it cut down to 3.

There were also driver issues, mainly with some of the extra features and stuff like the wifi switch and volume buttons. Also, the mouse pointer kept flickering whenever I used the scroll feature, which was annoying.

Did you try the final version, a beta or a release candidate? It makes a big difference ...

CarrerCrytharis · #16 Post by **CarrerCrytharis** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:12 pm

tomh009 wrote:Did you try the final version, a beta or a release candidate? It makes a big difference ...

Final version Business Edition.

Chrispy wrote:Have you tried turning off the Aero effect to see if that may be what is putting such a strain on your system to cut the battery life down like that?

It is true that I didn't do any very rigorous tests of battery life: while on battery, I switched to the Classic theme, but it seemed to drain the battery at the same rate.

I decided it wasn't worth the trouble, and reinstalled XP -- maybe somebody else who has more experience with Vista on a T60 should post their battery life, in case they had different results.

#17 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:18 pm

CarrerCrytharis wrote:
tomh009 wrote:Did you try the final version, a beta or a release candidate? It makes a big difference ...
Final version Business Edition.

With the ThinkPad drivers installed as well? Or a stock generic Vista? Most people report decent battery life with Vista final.

CarrerCrytharis · #18 Post by **CarrerCrytharis** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:29 pm

tomh009 wrote:
CarrerCrytharis wrote: Final version Business Edition.
With the ThinkPad drivers installed as well? Or a stock generic Vista? Most people report decent battery life with Vista final.

I couldn't find a lot of ThinkPad drivers for Vista on the Lenovo website, actually... I did install a power driver that I got there, but it didn't give me any of the extra customizing options I have in XP.

Is the Vista ThinkVantage software more fully-featured now? (I tried this in the middle of December, so they might not have finished developing it at that point.)

#19 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:55 pm

CarrerCrytharis wrote:Is the Vista ThinkVantage software more fully-featured now? (I tried this in the middle of December, so they might not have finished developing it at that point.)

There have been a number of Vista software updates since December.

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