Is anyone dual-booting XP and Vista?

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trharlan · #1 Post by **trharlan** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:40 pm

If so, and you'd be so kind, please tell me how your experience has been.

Thank you.

chaukap · #2 Post by **chaukap** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:30 am

I have my system in dual boot since three weeks now and i dint come up with any problems. The experience has been good so far, relatively simple and easy to do a dual boot.

PS : There are some specific issues in setting up the various utilities from Lenovo/IBM. There is enough discussion in the forum to address those.

#3 Post by **Kyocera** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:14 am

I've been dual booting also and the only problem I have is losing restore points in Vista after booting into XP, this is a known issue and has been addressed. It really is not a big deal for most. That's been it though, other than that it is working great.

chaukap wrote:PS : There are some specific issues in setting up the various utilities from Lenovo/IBM. There is enough discussion in the forum to address those.

Ditto to this.

chaukap · #4 Post by **chaukap** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:55 am

Kyocera wrote

I've been dual booting also and the only problem I have is losing restore points in Vista after booting into XP, this is a known issue and has been addressed.

I make a image back of my system, so am not troubled by this either, but to try things I created system restore points on both OS and restarted them alternately. It seems that only the restore points from Vista are getting deleted. I am still able to see the restore points in Win XP Pro.

#5 Post by **Kyocera** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:37 pm

Yes that's the problem it has to do with shadow files, shadow copy.
I hope they come up with a fix for this in the future, I am beta testing a lot of manufacturers software out in the field with Vista and like to use restore points to get rid of stuff after testing it and in some cases I have to use XP in some environments as well so I have to be careful to create restore points in Vista when installing software in case something goes south.

There is a procedure to completely hide the OS's from each other but it is a bit labor intensive and I like the idea of being able to pull up files from XP when in Vista.

chaukap · #6 Post by **chaukap** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:17 pm

I like the idea of being able to pull up files from XP when in Vista.

I am pretty sure you would have thought about this. I made a third logical partition which stores all my work/application files so that I can access them from both Vista and XP. That way nothing changes on the OS partitions and dont have to worry about sync or copy between them. I dont know, three partitions + one recover partition maybe too much and might be affecting my hard driver performance but it surely makes life simple. Isnt that computers are supposed to do anyways (atleas

)?

Melvyn · #7 Post by **Melvyn** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:42 pm

I'm suspecting that your issue with system restore came because you installed both in the same partition.

If they're installed in different partitions, you must take care of one logical things: Just st system restore to work only it the active partition. It have no sense to set win xp to monitor vista's partition (and viceversa).

It's curious for me that my xp and my vista swap their C:\ drive: When XP is up, then Vista is drive d:\ and while XP remain as C:\; by the way, when vista is up, then vista is c:\ and xp is d:\

That's behavior only occur in this machine. I installed in anothers and they have their own letters (a dell xp 1210 allways have vista in f:\ and xp in c:\)

those are the only strange thing I noticed with dual boot.

Regards

#8 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:47 pm

Melvyn wrote:I'm suspecting that your issue with system restore came because you installed both in the same partition.

I have Vista installed on a separate hard drive from XP. I have Vista on a hard drive in the Ultrabay Slim 2nd hard drive adapter. XP is on a hard drive in the main hard drive slot. XP's System Resore points seem to be unaffected (as I have Vista set up not to set Restore Points or monitor that drive). Vista Restore Points can be created, but anytime I boot back into XP, Vista's Restore Points are deleted. As long as I do not boot into XP, Vista's Restore Points are preserved. I do not see the same setting regarding System Restore Points for different partitions or drives in XP as I do in Vista.

EDIT: Actually I do find a similar setting in XP regarding the drives that are monitored with System Restore (I was looking in the wrong place before - it is in System Properties). I turned off System Restore for the Vista drive, but this made no difference in the end. When I booted into Vista and created a Restore Point, then booted into XP, the Restore Point in Vista was deleted.

#9 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:27 pm

I'm suspecting that your issue with system restore came because you installed both in the same partition.

Actually no, it's a known issue I searched the web far and wide for an easy fix., I have three drives set up similar to chaukup. There is a work around but it requires a whole lof of extra steps and software (you have to purchase) to completely hide the two OS's from each other.

chaukap · #10 Post by **chaukap** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:35 am

It's curious for me that my xp and my vista swap their C:\ drive: When XP is up, then Vista is drive d:\ and while XP remain as C:\; by the way, when vista is up, then vista is c:\ and xp is d:\

In my case when I am in XP my vista system is on drive 'V', the drive letter I assigned when creating a partition from XP. It still deletes the system restore on Vista. When I am in Vista, it is on drive 'C' and XP is on drive 'D'. IMO, it should not have to do much with the drive letters itself rather than which drives it is monitoring as GomJabbar suggested/tried.

#11 Post by **GomJabbar** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:23 am

The thought of a workaround for the Vista Restore Points getting deleted came to me; I tried it and it works.

If you have either Vista or XP on a separate hard drive in the Ultrabay Slim 2nd hard drive adapter, you can do the following: In Windows XP, go to Device Manager > Disk Drives > right-click on the drive where Vista is installed and disable it. Now XP will not see the Vista partition and you will not lose your Vista restore points when you boot into XP. It is not necessary to do this in Vista as long as you tell System Restore not to monitor the drive XP is on.

Of course with this method, you cannot copy files directly from the Vista drive to XP while booted into XP, but you can copy files between the drives when you are booted into Vista. This method should also work if you happen to have your second hard drive in an external enclosure, such as an external USB drive.

HTH

chaukap · #12 Post by **chaukap** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:39 am

Thats interesting. So XP can only 'not see' vista installation if its on a different physical drive. I thought of installing Vista on my ultrabay HD when I got it but decided not to in favor of having active protection, so ended up putting it on primary HD.
GomJabbar, have you tried inserting the ultrabay with vista partition after XP has booted so that it still appears as a external drive and then see if restore points in vista are getting deleted ?

Thanks,

#13 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:17 am

chaukap wrote:Thats interesting. So XP can only 'not see' vista installation if its on a different physical drive. I thought of installing Vista on my ultrabay HD when I got it but decided not to in favor of having active protection, so ended up putting it on primary HD.
GomJabbar, have you tried inserting the ultrabay with vista partition after XP has booted so that it still appears as a external drive and then see if restore points in vista are getting deleted ?

First of all, XP can see the Vista installation on a different physical drive unless that drive is disabled in Device Manager.

Secondly regarding APS:

APS Readme - 7ksa10ww.txt wrote:Summary of Changes
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<1.30b>
- (New) Support APS feature of 2nd HDD on Ultrabay Slim.

Thirdly, I tried your test above and XP does remember that the drive was disabled previously and keeps it that way when the 2nd hard drive adapter with the Vista HDD is inserted into the Ultrabay Slim drive bay. The restore points are not deleted.

chaukap · #14 Post by **chaukap** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:12 am

So XP can only 'not see' vista installation if its on a different physical drive.

Sorry, I wasnt that clear on that. I meant hiding Vista from XP is easier if its on a different drive. Kyocera mentioned a way to hide them from each other if on the same drive in his earlier post but is too tedious (which i certainly dont want to attempt).

Support APS feature of 2nd HDD on Ultrabay Slim.

That's awesome,, thanks for clarifying this. I am surely gonna change how XP and Vista reside on my machine.

XP does remember that the drive was disabled previously and keeps it that way when the 2nd hard drive adapter with the Vista HDD is inserted into the Ultrabay Slim drive bay. The restore points are not deleted.

Are files accessible then ? Because if it just sees the inserted Ultrabay drive as a storage device without deleting the restore points, this configuration might be the best working one.

Thanks for trying things. Greatly appreaciate.

#15 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:25 am

chaukap wrote:Are files accessible then ? Because if it just sees the inserted Ultrabay drive as a storage device without deleting the restore points, this configuration might be the best working one.

It's like a one-way mirror. Vista can see the files and can move files to and from the XP hard drive, but XP cannot see any files at all on the Vista hard drive (the way I have it configured). If you want to move a file from the Vista hard drive to the XP hard drive or vice versa, you must do this while booted into Vista.

Stargate199 · #16 Post by **Stargate199** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:45 pm

I am dual booting XP and Vista on a Pentium 4 machine. I do have a shutdown problem with vista, but i suspect a file got copied incorrectly since I installed the OS using a DVD drive that has problems reading disks. As soon as I swap out the drives, I'll try again.

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