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small XP shutdown problem

#1 Post by dcouzin » Thu May 17, 2007 10:13 am

Lately, I need to "turn off" XP twice in a row. The first time never does it. The second time always does it. I found 49 processes running before the first "turn off", and 36 processes running after it. Would studying those lists provide a clue? How does one diagnose this (unimportant) problem?
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#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu May 17, 2007 10:24 am

In all my XP installations I always install UPHCleanup
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en
Makes for a very fast shutdown.
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#3 Post by jdhurst » Thu May 17, 2007 11:10 am

In addition, watch the machine turn off. Occasionally, I see (otherwise tame) processes needing to be shutdown in error prior to the machine shutdown.

If I see no error processes, the machine always turns off flawlessly.
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#4 Post by dcouzin » Thu May 17, 2007 7:49 pm

To RealBlackStuff: UPHCleanup didn't help, but I'll leave it installed.
To jdhurst: where can one see these error reports during a shut down?
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#5 Post by ryengineer » Thu May 17, 2007 8:42 pm

dcouzin wrote:To jdhurst: where can one see these error reports during a shut down?
I think JD manually closes the programs that needs to be closed in task manager before shut down, which is a very good practise in my opinion.
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#6 Post by jdhurst » Thu May 17, 2007 9:13 pm

The errors pop up in a dialogue box. There are two kinds (maybe more):
1. A square box: Some process needs end. Progress bar. End Now or Cancel are the options.
2. A rectangular box: Some process has caused an error at 0X000... OK.

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#7 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri May 18, 2007 2:16 am

I'm trying a long shot here.
Are you running Sunbelt's Kerio firewall?
Have you tried to install some program(s) recently from CD/DVD that did not install properly?
Error messages involving wowexec.exe?
If so, update your Kerio firewall to version 4.5.916 (or newer, if available), reboot and try again.
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#8 Post by ennma » Fri May 18, 2007 12:46 pm

if you don't care about each process exits gracefully,
you can mod the reg to ignore the process and shutdown
anyway, this is done by modifying the time out value that XP allows
for processes to exit gracefully.

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#9 Post by dcouzin » Fri May 18, 2007 9:23 pm

Thanks all. It was Skype.
SkypePM.exe and Skype.exe are running.
With a single try at turn off, both these processes do leave the task list, but the turn off is unsuccessful. It only succeeds on the second try.
But if I manually turn off either SkypePM.exe or Skype.exe in the task manager the computer does turn off with a single try.
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#10 Post by zappb » Sat May 19, 2007 6:10 pm

Holy [censored] dcouzin your a bloody genius -

skype was doing it!!! That SOB!!! - I had the exact same problem on my T60 - it was really annoying and i searched a lot about common xp shut down problems!

Time to email skype what do you think?

Is there a more stable older version or how have you fixed this? (by exiting skype before shut down?)

-thanks again man!


EDIT - skype have updated to version 3.2 - its a new version and the shutdown seems to work fine now!
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