Windows Vista 64-bit Today

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#1 Post by **bill bolton** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:56 am

"The installed base of 64-bit Windows Vista PCs, as a percentage of all Windows Vista systems, has more than tripled in the U.S. in the last three months, while worldwide adoption has more than doubled during the same period."

See.... http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windo ... today.aspx

Cheers,

Bill B.

mgo · #2 Post by **mgo** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:32 am

bill bolton wrote:"The installed base of 64-bit Windows Vista PCs, as a percentage of all Windows Vista systems, has more than tripled in the U.S. in the last three months, while worldwide adoption has more than doubled during the same period."

See.... http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windo ... today.aspx

Cheers,

Bill B.

I've got it on one of the hard drives for my T60. Just slide it in, and off it goes. Did it mostly as a technical exercise. Doesn't seem too exciting, since nothing much is written for 64 bit Vista.

Office 2007, etc still runs as 32 bit, so not any faster.

Any insight on why the increase in usage?

RaysMD · #3 Post by **RaysMD** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:41 am

I think this is a result of box makers selling the PCs with increased RAM and therefore would require vista 64-bit.

I have it on my T61p but, I really don't see any speed advantage. Only that I'm able to address >3GB RAM.

Temetka · #4 Post by **Temetka** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:07 pm

That's pretty much what it gets used for at one of my clients.

They have a MacPro with 24GB of RAM in the sucker. Vista32 would crash very nicely on it whereas Vista64 runs great.

makaveli559m · #5 Post by **makaveli559m** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:40 am

Has any of you have had remorse switching to 64 bit? I have it running on my Thinkpad R61i 1.5Ghz with 3 gigs of RAM. Im thinking of switching back to 32 bit.

#6 Post by **bill bolton** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:28 pm

makaveli559m wrote:Has any of you have had remorse switching to 64 bit?

Vista x64 has been very, very stable for me... more so than Vista x86 in my experience.

Cheers,

Bill B.

Marin85 · #7 Post by **Marin85** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:11 pm

@Bill Bolton In what ways the x64 edition of Vista has proved to you to be more stable than the x86 edition? (just asking out of curiosity)

Thanks

Marin

hellosailor · #8 Post by **hellosailor** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:21 pm

Bill, a house of cards is more stable than Vista-32-Ultimate has been for me, despite intensive efforts to keep it that way. I'd call it the least stable and most fragile version of NT to date, so being more stable than that...Is kinda like coming in second in a 2-man race: Not a hard job.<G>

"64-bit PCs can offer added responsiveness when running a lot of applications at the same time " They make an interesting comment, when everyone else I've heard from says that Win64 runs 32-bit applications slower than W32 does. And so many of the apps are still only available in 32-bit versions.

I wonder if the market penetration has been only in the stratosphere, i.e. the shops running high end modelling, CAD, image rendering, where the extra gig of RAM really matters, and perhaps they've finally gotten 64-bit versions of their apps?

Are AutoCAD and PhotoShop shipping Win64 stable versions now?

Marin85 · #9 Post by **Marin85** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:56 pm

I think there has been recently an update that´s supposed to solve this "issue" of running 32 bit apps in Vista x64 slower than the x86 edition does. From what I saw, I have the feeling that for instance M$ Office 2007 runs even a bit faster in Vista x64 than in Vista x86. But that´s just a feeling

If one looks around for gaming machines, one would see more and more configurations with 4 or more GB of RAM installed. Having 4 GB of RAM in a gaming notebook has become here in Germany almost a standard, I guess in US it isn´t much more different. Of course, that´s due to the fact that RAM has become much cheaper over time. There are very few gaming machines that I would consider as really high-end, so I guess the popularity of Vista x64 is not only in the pro market sector.
AFAIK AutoCAD has had native 64bit support for (at least) 2 years now. I´m not aware of any 64bit Photoshop but this would be something interesting.
hellosailor, what you´re saying about your stability issues with Vista is quite strange to me. I would agree that Vista might have some cosmetic flaws (or not just some), but it´s the first one of a new generation of M$ OSes (completely new kernel, new shell etc.). I tend to experiment with OSes a lot and I had just few cases when my system lost responsiveness but then it immediately recovered (i.e. explorer). And this was due to faulty software, not to Vista itself. I have never had a single BSOD either (ok, just once, but it was due to faulty hardware, I don´t think that would count

). So, I´m pretty curious what sort of software you´re running (if some at all) and in what circumstances your system stops responding or BSODs

Cheers

Marin

#10 Post by **erik** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:06 pm

hellosailor wrote:I wonder if the market penetration has been only in the stratosphere, i.e. the shops running high end modelling, CAD, image rendering, where the extra gig of RAM really matters, and perhaps they've finally gotten 64-bit versions of their apps?

Are AutoCAD and PhotoShop shipping Win64 stable versions now?

pro/engineer and autocad both come in 64-bit versions. i think solidworks does, too. the next release of photoshop will be 64-bit and should be available before the end of the year.

my thinkstation has 16GB so i have to use 64-bit. in this case it's not the extra gig that matters—it's the extra thirteen gigs that matter.

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