Problems coming out of hibernate

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Problems coming out of hibernate

#1 Post by JonathanGennick » Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:32 am

I've been a bit frustrated lately by extreme sluggishness in coming out of hibernate. I've an x30. A month or so back I reinstalled Windows, from that hidden, recovery partition. Then I re-applied Service Pack 2 and all updates. I also downloaded and installed updated Thinkpad software from IBM.

To my delight, the Thinkpad seems to enter and exit "sleep" much faster than before, which is handy when I'm flying.

But to my great frustration, hibernate mode (suspend-to-disk) is a completly different story. I can enter hibernate ok, but waking up takes forever. There's a progress bar that goes across the screen when un-hibernating. That bar goes across at the usual speed. But then the system just hangs with a blank screen for literally minutes. The hard-drive light will sometimes blink. When I quickly click the mouse, I'll eventually get a beep from the dialog that pops up asking if I want a tutorial on using the mouse. And yet I cannot see the dialog because the screen is blank.

Eventually, after I wait long enough, and swear and curse at the thing long enough, the system will finish doing whatever it's doing and the display will come on. Even at that point there is sometimes a long lag before I can do anything.

What could possibly be wrong?

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#2 Post by Leon » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:35 am

Is it trying to connect to wireless?

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#3 Post by JonathanGennick » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:42 am

It probably is trying to connect to wireless, since that's what I use most of the time.

One thing I'm doing differently now than before is that I am using "Access Connections" to switch between different wireless and wired network scenarios. Previously, I just used Windows. Access Connections actually seems quite handy though, and I somewhat kick myself for having gone all these years ignoring it.

Reconnecting to wireless should not take minutes though. Is it possible that Access Connections is the problem here?

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#4 Post by Leon » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:49 am

some ideas:

1. Make sure you are running the Wireless Zero Configuration Service on Automatic.

2. Make sure that "Let Windows Manage My Wireless Connections" is NOT checked.

3. Check to see that you have the latest AC and Wireless Card Drivers.

4. If you are going into hibernate while connected to wireless, and might be coming out where there is a different (or no) wireless node, shut off your wireless radio before going into hibernate.

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#5 Post by JonathanGennick » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:26 pm

Leon, I have no idea what the zero config service even is.

Also, and I hate to say this, because I know I've seen that "let Windows manage my wireless" checkbox somewhere, ,but right now I can't find it.

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#6 Post by JonathanGennick » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:30 pm

Ok. When I bring up the "Wireless Network Connection Status" window, and then I click the "View Wireless Networks" button, I get a wizard telling me that "Windows cannot configure this wireless connection". That would seem to indicate that I've got the "let Windows do it" checkbox unchecked, so I would seem to be ok on that point.

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#7 Post by JonathanGennick » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:35 pm

Sorry for three posts in a row. I may have a clue to the problem though. When I look at my "wireless networks" tab under "wireless network connection properties", the tab shows a list of preferred networks. The first network in the list is a hotel network some 2000 miles away. Probably I'm out of range. Is it possible the Thinkpad is attempting to connect to that network first?

I cannot change the list of preferred networks. The options to do that are greyed out.

The Access Connection (AC) profile that I'm currently running under is set to use my home network. Shouldn't that override whatever windows settings might exist? After all, the whole point of AC is to let me easily choose where I'm at, right?

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#8 Post by dvorak » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:44 am

I had the same problem with also the shutdown taking minutes.
Often from hibernation I got blue screens and were forced to do a cold boot.
All blue screens were related to the SMBus driver, made by IBM. I tried reinstalling it, no luck, after a few days again a few popped out.

The problem, however, has solved itself: No long waits during shutdown, no waits during waking up, no blue screens in the last weeks.

PS: Wireless has been disabled all the time, so I don't think it's connected to the waits.
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#9 Post by JonathanGennick » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:34 am

Ironically, this morning, my Thinkpad jumped right out of Hibernate, no delays at all.

But who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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#10 Post by Leon » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:53 am

Go into Access Connections under the Menu Item "Location Switching" and you can change the order.

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#11 Post by dvorak » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:39 pm

Okay, things are weird indeed.

Today, in the morning, when turning the machine on again, I had to wait longer than usual to wake up. Okay, I thought, perhaps I had too many programs open, I did my work, after that hibernated again.

Now, when waking it up, I had an smbusdh.sys error (it's been weeks from the last time I saw one), but before deleting restoration data I tried shut the machine down, plugged it in, put the net cable back and tried again, voila, quick boot again.

I'm having a hard time understanding this problem, I've taken the AC out every time while the machine is in the middle of hibernating, and not always am I presented with a blue screen. As far as I remember, I've tried booting while plugged in before also, and still gotten a blue screen.

I tend to think your weird wait is related to the same issue I'm having, what ever it may be :P
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#12 Post by dvorak » Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:50 pm

Just for anyone's interest, I've done a format and reinstalled Windows and still bear the weird wait resuming from standby. I'll try uninstalling the Power Management Drivers (v1.30) to see if it'll solve it. My other guess is perhaps it has something to do with the new T43 Power Manager software (as I have that instead of Battery MaxiMiser).
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