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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#31 Post by csioucs » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:34 am

I too am interested in rejuvenating my trusty X61T. I'd also be interested in a board.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#32 Post by el-sahef » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:25 am

I would buy one for my X61 tablet.

For the tablet buttons, I would use a microcontroller with the tmk keyboard firmware. The digitizer has a UART Interface and there is no easy way to make the wacom drivers work with it if you connect it via USB UART adapter. But there are some wacom digitizers that work directly with USB, see here. Should be no problem to use one of these instead of the original one. Only the different aspect ratio could be a showstopper.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#33 Post by RMSMajestic » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:01 pm

el-sahef wrote:I would buy one for my X61 tablet.

For the tablet buttons, I would use a microcontroller with the tmk keyboard firmware. The digitizer has a UART Interface and there is no easy way to make the wacom drivers work with it if you connect it via USB UART adapter. But there are some wacom digitizers that work directly with USB, see here. Should be no problem to use one of these instead of the original one. Only the different aspect ratio could be a showstopper.

Is there a capacitive 12.1" 4:3 multi-touch panel that you know? I think it'll be more attractive than a CPU upgrade. Obviously for a convertible tablet performance isn't that important.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#34 Post by FryPpy » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:51 pm

+1, but i am on the other side of the pond;)
RMSMajestic wrote: Is there a capacitive 12.1" 4:3 multi-touch panel that you know? I think it'll be more attractive than a CPU upgrade. Obviously for a convertible tablet performance isn't that important.
With newer i5 IMHO X61t can survive more hours on battery than with original Merom ULV.
I have short googled for <12" multitouch capacitive>. And yes with wide screen LCDs everywhere more touch panels are widescreen to. But on Aliexpress some sellers have something like <Customize capacitive touch screen panel for 2" ~55">. You may ask your friends from China if it possible to make custom sized touchpanels.
And i have found one lot with complete POS terminal with 12" SVGA (4:3) Cap. TP on Ali.

Other question - how do you combine Wacom digitizer (that can only resistive TP) and this Cap TP?

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#35 Post by el-sahef » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:11 pm

Is there a capacitive 12.1" 4:3 multi-touch panel that you know?
No, but I did not search for one. I only use the pen anyway.
I think it'll be more attractive than a CPU upgrade.
But it will run longer on battery and stay cooler.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#36 Post by flyingfishfinger » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:12 pm

I've been searching for 12.1" capacitive solutions as well as a retrofit for a regular X61, but from what I've seen, the glass thickness (often in excess of 3mm) probably makes it prohibitive unless the lid is redesigned, and finding one with a thin enough bezel also has proven tricky.
EloTouch seems to make some that might work, but they told me they're not sold outside of integrated units / screens.
I'd be interested in opening this up as a project / experiment though.

[Also, sign me up for a board, if the group buy happens! :D]

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#37 Post by Colonel O'Neill » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:58 am

I'd probably be down for an X61 and/or X61t board, depending on cost.

If the forum needs a translator, I'd be happy to help.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#38 Post by ikea » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:27 am

+1 I am also interested in a X62 motherboard.

Any news so far, or is it likely to end as the T50?

IMHO they should open-source all the technical details so that we could start a kickstarter campaign to build them ourselves and pay 51nb contributors a license fee or kickback of any kind.

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Would the following X61 be compatible with this mobo?

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#39 Post by DaKKS » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:28 am

I'd totally go for one. I recently went from a X41 as my main ultraportable to an X61S. I could do with a bit more oumph since the dv4mini software seems to be a bit greedy with cpu power...

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#40 Post by RMSMajestic » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:20 pm

okay, updates:
first batch was out for sale, but it was sold out very soon. I think it's better to wait for the less buggy 2nd batch.
But there's definitely 2nd batch, and I should be able to get my hands on it.

Also, BIOS will enable a lot of features such as TDP settings :wink:
Just not sure if you will be able to set multipliers though
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#41 Post by Eric Giles » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:45 pm

I noticed the other day that someone has listed one of these for sale on eBay with a buy it now price of $4,788! Here is the ended listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301840169167?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

I would definitely be interested in a board if it ever becomes available. I have found myself using my X61 with SXGA+ LCD with LED modification more lately, so it would be nice to upgrade it again.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#42 Post by MrMaguire » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:30 am

So this motherboard will actually be generally available. Any idea on how many they plan on making?

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#43 Post by E350 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:20 am

Ok, this is really just an excuse for a bump.
But will the new replacement board have HDMI output to tv screen/monitor for streaming movies?

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#44 Post by fatpolomanjr » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:19 pm

I could see myself spending Surface Book levels of cash on a machine like this.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#45 Post by DaKKS » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:37 pm

Yeah, i'm out. Ripped apart a X61 to swap boards into my X61s but i dont think the smaller fan can cope. Now unless that Haswell runs load at absolute zero, i dont think the X61s fan can keep it under control either.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#46 Post by E350 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:05 pm

DaKKs: I started with two of the X61s models because I thought I would like the smaller "s" version better. But they got too hot (purchased, but couldn't figure out how to install a second palmrest fan) and they did not have the speed of the full size X61 models. So, I bit the bullet and bought two of the 2.4Ghz x61 "full size" models. And am much happier with the full size models. They are not much bigger than the "s" version. So, based on my experience, you may want to consider using and modding the full size.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#47 Post by DaKKS » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:39 pm

E350 wrote:DaKKs: I started with two of the X61s models because I thought I would like the smaller "s" version better. But they got too hot (purchased, but couldn't figure out how to install a second palmrest fan) and they did not have the speed of the full size X61 models. So, I bit the bullet and bought two of the 2.4Ghz x61 "full size" models. And am much happier with the full size models. They are not much bigger than the "s" version. So, based on my experience, you may want to consider using and modding the full size.
Honestly, mate. My X61 is in near mint nick, and i doubt i'm gonna find a non-s model in this condition. To me the X62 mod would be a fun project, i like the X6X series, but not enough to go out of my way to build the perfect one. I'm gonna wait on the boards and in the unlikely event it runs cool enough, or can be throttled in a functional manner. I might invest in one, but i'm quite good with running a stock X61 until it becomes unusable. It can run my programming software and DV4mini control panel. Aside from writing, that's all i use it for.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#48 Post by Tasurinchi » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:19 am

Just out of curiosity... For how much $$$ were these mobos being sold in China?
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#49 Post by DaKKS » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:54 am

I've seen the number 320$ floating around.

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#50 Post by jaspen-meyer » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:14 pm

I'd take one, too.

IF the DFX files are available I could get them produced locally.
The big component manufacturer in town told me for boards they usually do an Initial run of 200, to control the manufacturing process is running correctly.
Then minimum run is between 2000-5000 depending on the particulars of the board.

If smaller runs were needed they said their prototyping company could be used.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#51 Post by chen_xin_ming » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:21 pm

DaKKS wrote:I've seen the number 320$ floating around.
That's just for the motherboard. Including CPU I'd say around $500. CPU is soldered on board and must be sold together, of course.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#52 Post by hopejyb » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:13 pm

chen_xin_ming wrote:
DaKKS wrote:I've seen the number 320$ floating around.
That's just for the motherboard. Including CPU I'd say around $500. CPU is soldered on board and must be sold together, of course.
Hi,everyone. I'm HOPE from 51nb.com and I'm very glad to heard that so many friends are interested in the X62 project.
The trial-produced X62 mainboards were about 50 pcs and installed by early this month, about 90% were working very well, so we are about to produce the final version late this month or on March.
The price of X62 mainboard including i7-5500u/5600u is about USD $430(2800yuan RMB).
I'll post some pictures of X62 mainboard later.
Thanks to all.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#53 Post by fatpolomanjr » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:21 pm

Awesome. I might just need to buy myself an X61 to mod.
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#54 Post by jaspen-meyer » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:07 am

hopejyb wrote:
chen_xin_ming wrote:
That's just for the motherboard. Including CPU I'd say around $500. CPU is soldered on board and must be sold together, of course.
Hi,everyone. I'm HOPE from 51nb.com and I'm very glad to heard that so many friends are interested in the X62 project.
The trial-produced X62 mainboards were about 50 pcs and installed by early this month, about 90% were working very well, so we are about to produce the final version late this month or on March.
The price of X62 mainboard including i7-5500u/5600u is about USD $430(2800yuan RMB).
I'll post some pictures of X62 mainboard later.
Thanks to all.
Hi Hope,
I live in Europe. I do not speak Chineese.
How can I order a board/cpu?

At 1% load, can the machine be on with the fan off?
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#55 Post by Tasurinchi » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:26 am

hopejyb wrote:
chen_xin_ming wrote:Hi,everyone. I'm HOPE from 51nb.com and I'm very glad to heard that so many friends are interested in the X62 project.
Welcome to the forum! I'm very glad you joined us here :thumbs-UP:

You may be surprised on the big fan base of loyal ThinkPadders we have around here, many of us were very interested in some of your projects on 51nb.com, unfortunately the language barrier prevented us to know/participate more, luckily RMSMajestic and others kept us up to date on the X62.

I'm looking forward to the X62 pictures and I hope there is a practical/comfortable way for you to ship/sell these units out of China.

Now if you allow me to stretch your patience with an extra question, is there any other ThinkPad related project you're working over there that we may not be aware of? If yes, would you mind opening some new threads in the respective subforums? (E.g. the T50 models, which a couple of users here manage to get their hands on)

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#56 Post by hopejyb » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:01 am

jaspen-meyer wrote:
hopejyb wrote:
Hi,everyone. I'm HOPE from 51nb.com and I'm very glad to heard that so many friends are interested in the X62 project.
The trial-produced X62 mainboards were about 50 pcs and installed by early this month, about 90% were working very well, so we are about to produce the final version late this month or on March.
The price of X62 mainboard including i7-5500u/5600u is about USD $430(2800yuan RMB).
I'll post some pictures of X62 mainboard later.
Thanks to all.
Hi Hope,
I live in Europe. I do not speak Chineese.
How can I order a board/cpu?

At 1% load, can the machine be on with the fan off?
the fan(modified by the fan of X61) is included, which is not the same as the fans of X61, so you do not need to worry about the fan, you should just prepare an 'empty' X61, that's ok.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#57 Post by hopejyb » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:09 am

Tasurinchi wrote:
hopejyb wrote:
Welcome to the forum! I'm very glad you joined us here :thumbs-UP:

You may be surprised on the big fan base of loyal ThinkPadders we have around here, many of us were very interested in some of your projects on 51nb.com, unfortunately the language barrier prevented us to know/participate more, luckily RMSMajestic and others kept us up to date on the X62.

I'm looking forward to the X62 pictures and I hope there is a practical/comfortable way for you to ship/sell these units out of China.

Now if you allow me to stretch your patience with an extra question, is there any other ThinkPad related project you're working over there that we may not be aware of? If yes, would you mind opening some new threads in the respective subforums? (E.g. the T50 models, which a couple of users here manage to get their hands on)

Thanks a lot in advance!

T
Thank you.
I'll post the pictures of X62 including the specifications,running marks by pcmark,aida64 etc.
When some of the final version of X62 produced(should be on March),we want to start the project of X202 which will be specified for X200/X201 and T70 for T60/T61. but this will be one or two months later.
Now I'm using the X62 to post here ,so good.

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#58 Post by Tasurinchi » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:24 am

hopejyb wrote:we want to start the project of X202 which will be specified for X200/X201 and T70 for T60/T61
Awesome! :thumbs-UP:
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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#59 Post by Saucey » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:40 am

X202 and X70?!?! :bow:

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Re: 51nb's X62: latest update

#60 Post by shawross » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:42 am

Hope

Is there any thought on doing something for the X300/X301 at this stage?
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