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P52s ask for opinions

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:07 am
by xiqzi
Hi folks,

I'm wondering about this thinkpad with FullHD screen. Are here owners of this device and can they share opinion about this?
I'm highly interested (especially) in:

- quality of this screen, saw on notebookcheck it has very good contrast but Lenovo has many suppliers and this is general lottery which one I will get. Or should I forget about this screen and buy UHD instead?
- quality of speakers, especially with comparison with T4* series and T580
- general impressions/problems from owners perspective

I'm considering this thinkpad to buy as it has quite good ULV processor and a very good battery life with the largest external battery. I'm not a graphic designer hence colors accuracy is not critical for me (but I want to have, let's say "available" all colors)

Highly appreciate for any opinions and suggestions
Thanks in advance

Re: P52s ask for opinions

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:24 am
by w0qj
<< Executive Summary >>
The 4k IPS 400 nits glossy touch LCD is *very* nice for above purposes. But if we had to buy another X1 Extreme once again for own personal use, we may well buy the "good enough" FHD 300 nits non-touch matt screen for its noticeably better battery life, and no background reflections due to its matt screen. And much lower FHD cost to boot!

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Unfortunately it looks like few folks on this forum have experience with P52s...
noted that you value the P52s especially for it's user-replaceable external battery.

1. There are folks on this forum who was thinking of P52s, but finally bought the new X1 Extreme (aka X1E1, 1st Gen, circa 2018) as X1E1 is even thinner/portable.

2. Although we don't have experience with the P52s, we can share with you our recent ThinkPad LCD screen experience, as below:

2a. FHD LCD (actually WQHD 2560x1440, IPS, 300 nits, matt screen, non-touch) on X1C3/X1C4 (X1 Carbon 3rd Gen & 4th Gen).
~I would imagine this would be similar to the P52s FHD matt LCD you are looking at.
~Bright enough for indoor use, and OK for the occasional outdoor use also due to its matt screen for X1C3/X1C4.
~Watching movies on this screen is "good enough" for us.

2b. 4k UHD LCD (3840x2160, IPS, 400 nits, glossy, touch LCD) on our own X1E1 (X1 Extreme, 1st Gen).
~*EXCELLENT* for watching movies and gaming. Fighters' armour actually looked silver & gold in the Gladiator movie. Gaming colours stand out like they have never before!
~The Glossy screen bothers me when outdoors in bright sunlight. 400 nits is bright enough for outdoor use, but it's glossy and showing reflections nevertheless!
~Indoor use of Glossy screen is OK as long as you use the default "bright/light" mode with white background browsers.
~Indoor use of Glossy screen under "Night/Dark" mode in browsers may show your own reflection in the LCD, as well as your ceiling/background!
~You take a noticeable hit in the battery life using 4k screen (400 nits, touch) vs the FHD (300 nits, non-touch).
~4k screen is slightly thicker and slightly heavier than FHD screen.
~Negligible fingerprints on 4k screen despite occasional touch-use. This is the first touch-screen LCD we have bought. It's better than we have expected!
~Touch Screen LCD paired with the optional Lenovo Pen Pro enabled us to input our local non-English hand-writing, much like a smartphone!

~4k screen: on my X1E1 the selectable 16:9 resolution were: 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 1600x900 [lower resolutions in 16:9 ratio also available].
***Note that the 2560x1440 resolution was *NOT* available on my 15" 4k LCD screen (even my previous X1C4 with 14" LCD had 2560x1440 available).

******The 4k IPS 400 nits glossy touch LCD is *very* nice for above purposes. But if we had to buy another X1 Extreme once again for own personal use, we may well buy the "good enough" FHD 300 nits non-touch matt screen for its noticeably better battery life, and no background reflections due to its matt screen. And much lower FHD cost to boot!

3. We are 100% satisfied with ThinkPad LCD screens thus far, especially for our relatively recent purchases of X250, X1C3, X1C4, and now X1E1.
We actually don't worry about the quality of ThinkPad LCD screens when we purchase; all of them were good!

4. Do have fun choosing your ThinkPad!