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Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#1 Post by ThinkPad560X » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:59 pm

I am still running Windows 7 Pro x64bit. I skipped Windows 8/8.1 and skipped windows 10 and soon 11 even thought none of my machines will even accept windows 11. Everything is running fine on my windows 7 machine and my other machines I ran XP all the way past 2014. Basically the web browsers is what killed it for XP. Certain web pages wouldn't load right. Soon Windows 7 will be the same. Even Steam I can't access on XP and not sure when 7 will follow.

I tested windows 10 and didn't like it with all the reinstall of programs I uninstalled, ads would show up in certain programs and Windows 11 will require a MS account (for windows Home users) maybe Pro eventually. And MS wants to display more ads in 11's OS. So I may go with Linux. I may get Linux Mint or Zorin.

As of right now I've used Windows since the beginning (3.1) and even have my Windows 7 set as Classic. (just like the standard clean look of Windows 98-2000)
I don't play games really and if I do the most current would be 2011 at most 2015. All my others are all 90s. I heard of wine for linux. So what is the best future proof Linux OS to use that will play my games and old software like 3ds max and adobe photoshop?
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Re: Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#2 Post by dr_st » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:40 am

ThinkPad560X wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:59 pm
Basically the web browsers is what killed it for XP. Certain web pages wouldn't load right. Soon Windows 7 will be the same.
I don't think it will be so soon. Win7 managed to snatch a lot of Microsoft's compatibility upgrades before it went out of mainstream support. And then Microsoft even ported its own modern Edge browser to it.

Then again, time does feel like it moves faster now than it did 10 years ago. So maybe subjectively it will feel soon. Also, no guarantee that SW vendors won't start killing Win7 the same way they killed Vista out of pure laziness...
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Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:59 pm
As of right now I've used Windows since the beginning (3.1) and even have my Windows 7 set as Classic. (just like the standard clean look of Windows 98-000)
I don't play games really and if I do the most current would be 2011 at most 2015. All my others are all 90s. I heard of wine for linux. So what is the best future proof Linux OS to use that will play my games and old software like 3ds max and adobe photoshop?
Ubuntu or Mint are generally considered newbie-friendly, but I don't know about compatibility with 3ds/photoshop. Someone more experienced with Linux will have to answer that for you...
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Re: Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#3 Post by Neil » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:58 am

I've been using Linux on most of my ThinkPads for years now. I don't want my Linux to look or feel like Windows, but I can understand why some do want that. Just discovered yesterday what may be a good choice for folks that want their Linux OS to look like Windows, and provide easy access to Microsoft on-line software...Windowsfx Operating System.
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Re: Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#4 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:38 pm

I was thinking since It says Virtualbox will run on Linux Mint or any other Linux OS, Then I can just run windows 7 in VM and run my games through that and or Adobe software. Would this work then?
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Re: Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#5 Post by Neil » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:21 am

Yes, VirtualBox is a good option. Better, in my opinion that WINE. At least for the Windows software I need want to use. But it may not be the best solution for gaming, depending on the type of games one plays. Graphics acceleration doesn't work very well in VirtualBox.
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Re: Upgrade from Windows 7 to Linux Mint or Zorin

#6 Post by mikemex » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:29 pm

ThinkPad560X wrote:
Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:59 pm
I am still running Windows 7 Pro x64bit. I skipped Windows 8/8.1 and skipped windows 10 and soon 11 even thought none of my machines will even accept windows 11. Everything is running fine on my windows 7 machine and my other machines I ran XP all the way past 2014. Basically the web browsers is what killed it for XP. Certain web pages wouldn't load right. Soon Windows 7 will be the same. Even Steam I can't access on XP and not sure when 7 will follow.

I tested windows 10 and didn't like it with all the reinstall of programs I uninstalled, ads would show up in certain programs and Windows 11 will require a MS account (for windows Home users) maybe Pro eventually. And MS wants to display more ads in 11's OS. So I may go with Linux. I may get Linux Mint or Zorin.

As of right now I've used Windows since the beginning (3.1) and even have my Windows 7 set as Classic. (just like the standard clean look of Windows 98-2000)
I don't play games really and if I do the most current would be 2011 at most 2015. All my others are all 90s. I heard of wine for linux. So what is the best future proof Linux OS to use that will play my games and old software like 3ds max and adobe photoshop?
A perfect example of a self-fulfilling prophecy: Windows 7 works alright, yet the upgrade bug bites you, you upgrade, and the 7 user base shrinks, until manufacturers do notice the shrink and cease to support it.

Keep in mind that servers do keep statistics about visits so you kind of vote with your stuff. I'd say keep using Windows 7. You said it yourself: it works fine, so why change it? Just because Microsoft says so?

Yes, at some point they'll stop supporting it, but situation is very different from XP. XP saw the transition from 32 bit software to 64 bit and browsers are very memory hungry. Regardless of other architectural differences, the mere possibility of accessing more than 3GB of RAM is what killed internet browsing on Windows XP (although XP 64 exists, it was never widely used or supported).

I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately and I've come to the conclusion that the security risk is real but minimal. I've not had a virus infection in years because I do not run software of questionable origin and getting your machine infected from behind a good firewall and an updated browser is next to impossible. Unlike Microsoft, who would be more than happy to kill the entire Windows 7 user base, I don't think the guys at Mozilla are in a rush to kill 7 support. Everyone knows it was the last decent version of Windows and that it still runs perfectly fine on millions of machines, supported or not.

If unsure, you always have the possibility to write the Mozilla team a letter asking them to commit to support 7 for as long as possible. I'd be happy to sign it.
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