Thinkpads Forum

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum.. I'm from Italy and I prodly own a t43p running fedora core 5... and waiting for my next thinkpad, the t60p, hopefully before friday.

my "problem" is that I passed long time setting up and reinstalling my fedora that now I really wish a streight way to "clone" my current confing on the newcming t60p.

My guess is that I can then easly install the smp kernel.. and reinstall those couple of things which needs to be reinstalled after a kernel update (ati drivers and couple others).. but what i -really- wanna avoid.. is installing a fresh Fedora again.. and reinstall all my stuffs (I mean all the yumex installed things like apps, applets, games, usefull things)...

my $home is easy to move... everything is there... so the question is:
is it safe/is there a way to move my current Fedora on the new thinkpad?


current thinkpad have 120Gb 5400rpm..
new thinkpad will have 100gb 7200 rpm (and no cdrom since I preferred a second harddrive)


.. so a simple dd or clone maybe wouldnt word..

I really prefer to unistall/reinstall few drivers.. instead of listing (how?) all the yumex/rpm installed application.. and do the whole from scratch if possibile.

any advice is -really- appreciated

thanks in advance.

........ none?

... ok maybe its august..
or maybe "ther's no way"

laptop didnt arrived yet anyway .. i'll make a fresh install then.

cheers. take care.

Erm, the T43p and T60p architecture is very different. I've yet to install linux myself, but from a windows background. I don't think it would be possible. And also there are definitely benefits from having a clean install.

EDIT: Yeh 'cause T43p and T43p made lots of sense

If you haven't compiled your own kernel, I think it's safe. Fedora is kinda auto-sensing, although the kernel have to be changed after you've transferred your install to the new laptop.

The best way to transferring your data is to buy an external enclosure for your new harddrive and booting your old computer from a live-cd and "dd" all of the old drive to the new. And then inserting the new hdd in the new laptop again.

but just to be safe, backup your home directory. It'll make your life simpler if you fail.

I didnt compiled my kernel.. its what comes out from fedora Setup and yum update (done almost weekly)....

actually ... I'm better for the "clean setup" mode.. but.. the fact is that I just installed this t43p 2 weeks ago .. and what I'd like.. would be a "clean fedora setup" ... but then a yum install with a list of all my current t43p installed apps... what would be enought already ....

all others bigger standalone apps.. i can setup then mysef...

what its really annoying would be renstalling all my little gnome apps.. and all others various installed via yumex apps...

better.. yeah.. would just be a system transfer between the current t43p and the new t60p (which should arrive tomorrow)....

I'm open for new ideas.. else.. I'll just make a clean install.. and that's it.

another question .. well... my dilemma is also the next one.

i bought the t60p with 2x100Gb 7200rpm disk instead of the DVD burner.... would you make a raid0 setup via Fedora setup?... I know that equal to "data safety = zero" but.. at same time what I'm not exprerienced enought is about reliability of the Linux raid 0 FS...

I did menaged to use lot of hardward and software Raid 0... since I work in 3D and video since long time.. but what about a system disk on a raid 0?.....

thanks for any opinions/suggestion...

sum[]one: A systemdisc on two striped discs are a good idea, especially if you are doing much video work. I don't know if the fedora setup has that feature. But if it does you should give it a shot.

seneca wrote:sum[]one: A systemdisc on two striped discs are a good idea, especially if you are doing much video work. I don't know if the fedora setup has that feature. But if it does you should give it a shot.

the fact is that i dont do video editing so much anymore.. and specially since i totally migrated to Linux... (lack of good softwares).. but I do heavy 3D.. with particle simulation.. and compositing... so that's why i was wondering about having a striped system disk...

that said.. I'll also store all my databases on such stripe... which makes me fear the worst...
thanks for your advice tought... i still need to make a decision .. would like to have few more impressions about the Linux stripe reliability.

cheers.

If you can get the old HD connected to the T60 I think dd would work fine to transfer the install to the raid setup. But then again, I may be wrong .

sum][one wrote:

seneca wrote:sum[]one: A systemdisc on two striped discs are a good idea, especially if you are doing much video work. I don't know if the fedora setup has that feature. But if it does you should give it a shot.

the fact is that i dont do video editing so much anymore.. and specially since i totally migrated to Linux... (lack of good softwares).. but I do heavy 3D.. with particle simulation.. and compositing... so that's why i was wondering about having a striped system disk...

that said.. I'll also store all my databases on such stripe... which makes me fear the worst...
thanks for your advice tought... i still need to make a decision .. would like to have few more impressions about the Linux stripe reliability.

cheers.

Well...3d modelling and particle simulation are not very I/O intensive and striping your harddrive just for that might be overkill.

Just run it on a single drive and backup (dump) your database to your other harddrive once a day or something (put a shellscript in cron).

laptop arrived ... but excitment immediately felt down ...

I got several problem installing Fedora Core 5...

my t60p doenst have DVD .. it have a SATA bay with second HDD as I mentioned above.. i'm installing from a USB DVDrom ... and I tried the t43p DVD with a succesful install... but then at first reboot after setup finished... I get the machine stuck at

starting udev:

after a while a "Wait timeout" ...

I googled this but found nothing usefull...
anyone here ever installed fedora core 5 on a similar config? (dual HDD) .... shame on me i tought the t43 and t60 where "the same machine"

looking forward for your help
cheers

PS .. my t60p arrived with no the "extra part" attached on the screen..which should be the WIFI antenna... I asked why to the seller and I've been told that pictures i saw on the web are for older models.. newer doesnt have such extra antenna... can anyone confirm this? (i live in Europe in case this counts)

Your problems with FC5 are most likely related to the ATI chipset in your T60p.

You need to edit /etc/inittab to boot to runlevel 3, or configure it to do so during your initial installation.

Google around for FC4 and FC5 boot problems, video problems, etc. I can't remember the exact fix, but as I recall, it requires some tweaking of the xserver. Think old-school, where getting an xserver up and running was quite the accomplishment.

Or switch to SUSE - which has very few HCL problems since they distribute the machine with SUSE Enterpise now.

Cheers,