Presentation Director shortcut Fn + F7 not working anymore

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Presentation Director shortcut Fn + F7 not working anymore

#1 Post by pescador_sp » Tue May 29, 2007 4:15 pm

Hi everyone,

Last Friday I updated the Presentation Director program to the latest version available at Lenovo (2.57). After this update, the Fn + F7 shortcut is not working anymore. When I try to use it, the display switches to the external, dual and them back to LCD, as a normal Laptop without Presentation Director installed. Before this update I was using that black menu. All other shortcuts (F5, F9, F3, F8, etc) still working.

I tried to uninstall it and install the old version (2.55), but didn't work. I tried to install all lenovo thinkpad drivers and utilities, and them install everything again, and the same happens.

Does someone knows any solution for this issue?

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#2 Post by snessiram » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:27 am

I have the same problem on my R60 after updating it recently. I don't remember there being an update on the presentation director but I do recall an update of thinkpad key preferences (don't exactly know what it's called, comes down to the fn keys). I haven't looked for a solution yet. Anyone having one?

[update]
I just ran system update again and I have an optional update of Presentatuon Director (v3.03), so if that was the same version you updated to, that doesn't cause the problem. I'll install the update now.
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#3 Post by GomJabbar » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:55 pm

I just did some updates today, including the following (amongst others):

Presentation Director, version 2.57
Hotkey Features, version 2.03.0705

Now I was having the same problem you guys are describing. Fn + F7 would only cycle through the display settings, but not bring up the menu. I tried several things, among them: downgrading Presentation Director to the previous version 2.56. No dice.

What worked was downgrading the Hotkey Features driver to the previous version, Version 1.31.0610.
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#4 Post by GomJabbar » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:09 pm

FYI, Presentation Director version 3.03 is not listed as compatible with the T4x series.
Lenovo wrote:Presentation Director for Windows Vista, XP, 2000 - Notebooks
Version: 3.03
Release Date: 2007/05/23
This package enables or updates the utility programs of the following systems:

- 3000 C200
- 3000 N100, N200
- 3000 V100, V200
- ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61
- ThinkPad T60, T60p, T61
- ThinkPad X60, X60s, X60 Tablet
- ThinkPad Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t
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#5 Post by snessiram » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:01 am

GomJabbar wrote:Try uninstalling the Hotkey Features driver and installing a previous version. To uninstall the Hotkey Features driver you need to uninstall the following:
1. ThinkPad web navigation keys agent
2. ThinkPad FullScreen Magnifier
3. On Screen Display

Follow the installation instructions below to install.

Hotkey driver for Windows 98/Me/NT 4.0/2000/XP - ThinkPad General version 1.31.0610.
I uninstalled the 3 you said, downloaded the linked package and installed. Fn + F7 doesn't do anything anymore now (other FN keys do). I don't know if it's normal, but when I click SETUP.EXE in C:\DRIVERS\WIN\HOTKEY and ask the version numbers I get Magnifier 1.17 and Onscreen display 3.40.01. Is it normal there's nothing like "hotkey drivers"?
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#6 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:34 am

snessiram wrote:I uninstalled the 3 you said, downloaded the linked package and installed. Fn + F7 doesn't do anything anymore now (other FN keys do). I don't know if it's normal, but when I click SETUP.EXE in C:\DRIVERS\WIN\HOTKEY and ask the version numbers I get Magnifier 1.17 and Onscreen display 3.40.01. Is it normal there's nothing like "hotkey drivers"?
There is nothing called Hotkey driver listed in Setup.exe or Software Installer.

Which version of Presentation Director do you have installed? The Hotkey Features driver 1.31.0610 may not be compatible with Presentation Director 3.03.

I wonder why you downgraded the Hotkey Drivers if your system was working properly? :?

You appear to be using a R60, which uses newer version drivers than the T4x series.
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#7 Post by snessiram » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:10 am

I have the latest version of Presentation Director (3.03) and I downgraded because the F7 did what the TS described: not opening the Presentation Director menu but switch laptop/external screen (although right configured in Presentation Director).
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#8 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:53 am

You are using the correct version of Presentation Director (3.03) for your R60. You also need the following:
Lenovo wrote:Installation instructions

Notes:
Before installing Presentation Director, it is required to install "Lenovo System Interface Driver" and an appropriate display driver for the target system. Refer to the README file of each software package for installing these software packages
Lenovo System Interface Driver
Display Driver
To enable Fn+F7 key function, it is also required to install the following packages:
Power Management Driver
Hotkey Features
I think there could be a bug in the Hotkey Features driver version 2.03.0705 that is not enabling the Fn + F7 function, but I could be mistaken. If you have the original XP installation on your R60, there should be a directory such as C:\IBMTOOLS\drivers\HOTKEY\ and from there you can install the original version of the Hotkey Features driver that came with your R60. The original version of Presentation Director should be in C:\IBMTOOLS\drivers\PDIRECT\. It is possible this directory has a different name on the R60, but that is what it is on the T42.
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Re: Presentation Director shortcut Fn + F7 not working anymo

#9 Post by tomh009 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:46 am

pescador_sp wrote:Last Friday I updated the Presentation Director program to the latest version available at Lenovo (2.57). After this update, the Fn + F7 shortcut is not working anymore. When I try to use it, the display switches to the external, dual and them back to LCD, as a normal Laptop without Presentation Director installed. Before this update I was using that black menu. All other shortcuts (F5, F9, F3, F8, etc) still working.
This seems rather basic, but since no one else asked the question ... did you try running Presentation Director from the Start menu, and checking the Fn+F7 settings?
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Re: Presentation Director shortcut Fn + F7 not working anymo

#10 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:58 am

tomh009 wrote:This seems rather basic, but since no one else asked the question ... did you try running Presentation Director from the Start menu, and checking the Fn+F7 settings?
I did, but it didn't work for me. I even changed the setting to something else, closed the program, then reopened and changed it back, but that had no effect to bring up the Fn + F7 menu. Only reverting the Hotkey driver to the previous version worked for me.
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#11 Post by tomh009 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:18 am

GomJabbar wrote:I think there could be a bug in the Hotkey Features driver version 2.03.0705 that is not enabling the Fn + F7 function, but I could be mistaken. If you have the original XP installation on your R60, there should be a directory such as C:\IBMTOOLS\drivers\HOTKEY\ and from there you can install the original version of the Hotkey Features driver that came with your R60. The original version of Presentation Director should be in C:\IBMTOOLS\drivers\PDIRECT\. It is possible this directory has a different name on the R60, but that is what it is on the T42.
It appears that we have this same problem on (at least) one of the new T60s we have. It won't bring up the Presentation Director menu with Fn+F7, and it won't autoswitch profiles when docking. This is with the original drivers on the T60.

Should I look for an older Hotkey Features driver? Will this also address the automatic display profile selection when docking?
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#12 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:55 am

tomh009 wrote:It appears that we have this same problem on (at least) one of the new T60s we have. It won't bring up the Presentation Director menu with Fn+F7, and it won't autoswitch profiles when docking. This is with the original drivers on the T60.

Should I look for an older Hotkey Features driver? Will this also address the automatic display profile selection when docking?
I appears that snessiram above did not have success using the older drivers available for the T4x series on his R60. YMMV. I do not have access to a T60 to test. However another T60 owner reports this same problem in the following thread. He has not posted a response to date since he started the thread.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=43654
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#13 Post by SeanM » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:12 pm

I'm guessing you guys are using XP?

If you are using a T60, try using the hotkey driver v2.03.0705

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67047

If you are using a T43, try using v. 1.31.0610:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-38953

edit: Sorry, my numbers were completely screwed up, but GomJabbar straightened me out before I could come back and hide it. =/
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#14 Post by GomJabbar » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:06 pm

SeanM wrote:snessiram, OSD v3.40.01 is hotkey v. 2.03.0705. If you install hotkey 1.31.0610, you should see OSD v. 5.03.00.
Nope. Sorry, you got it backwards.
Lenovo wrote:Version 2.03.0705
- On Screen Display : 5.03.00
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.16
Lenovo wrote:Version 1.31.0610 Support ThinkPad X60 Tablet
- On Screen Display : 3.40.01
- Easy Launch Buttons III : 2.50
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.17
- Web navigation keys agent : 1.11
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#15 Post by gunston » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:44 am

Try to uninstall your current P.Director and reinstall with the latest version that you can find from the Lenovo official webpage.
hope it helps... 8)
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#16 Post by SeanM » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:04 pm

Those of you having this problem (in XP), try this:

Download and run the hotkey driver I linked above. If you have an R60, use the same one as for the T43. Note where it extracts to.

Run the setup.exe in that folder. Choose the uninstall option, and remove each of the components listed, starting from the bottom and working your way up.

After that is done, close the window and choose the option to reboot.

Once rebooted, run the same setup.exe and install the driver. Reboot once more, and check Fn+F7.

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#17 Post by tsimm » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:13 am

had the same problem for a while.
SeanM solution itself didn't help but when I uninstalled presentation director 2.56 and reinstalled 2.57, making reboots as often as I could, I was able to make Fn+F7 key combination to work. futhermore, I installed Thinkpad Power Managment Driver which wasn't installed before.
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#18 Post by snessiram » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:01 pm

I don't exactly know what I did but I have the latest drivers of everything according to system update and fn-f7 works again. Maybe there was a bug in one version somewhere?
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#19 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:12 pm

For all those that are running the "latest drivers"...

I would appreciate that the ones that have Fn + F7 working, that they post version numbers of Presentation Director and Hotkey Features that they have installed. I also would appreciate knowing which model ThinkPad the system is working on. Saying you are using the "latest drivers" is unfortunately a little vague.

* For Presentation Director post whether you are using version 3.03 or version 2.57.

* For Hotkey Features post which version of the following you are using.

Hotkey driver, Version 2.03.0705
- On Screen Display : 5.03.00
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.16

or

Hotkey driver Version 1.31.0610
- On Screen Display : 3.40.01
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.17
- Web navigation keys agent : 1.11

* Post the model of ThinkPad, Fn + F7 is working on (brings up the Presentation Director menu).
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#20 Post by snessiram » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:59 pm

R60 working:
- Presentation Director: 3.03
- Hotkey features: 2.03.0705
- Onscreen Display: 5.03.00
- Full Screen Magnifier: 1.17
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#21 Post by jdhurst » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 pm

GomJabbar wrote:For all those that are running the "latest drivers"...
<snip>
Hotkey driver Version 1.31.0610
- On Screen Display : 3.40.01
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.17
- Web navigation keys agent : 1.11
<snip>
I have the latest drivers my T41 (2373-1HU) running, which are the ones shown above.

I updated to Presentation Director 2.57 today, and have no difficulty using Fn+F7 to select my screen setup. I was using 2.56 for a while up to today with no problems either.

... JDH

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#22 Post by bill bolton » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:00 pm

GomJabbar wrote:* For Presentation Director post whether you are using version 3.03 or version 2.57.

* For Hotkey Features post which version of the following you are using.

* Post the model of ThinkPad, Fn + F7 is working on (brings up the Presentation Director menu).
Presentation Director 2.57

Hotkey driver Version 1.31.0610
- On Screen Display : 3.40.01
- Full Screen Magnifier : 1.17
- Web navigation keys agent : 1.11

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#23 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:03 pm

This is the combination that did not work for me on my T42 running XP.
* Presentation Director, version 2.57
* Hotkey Features, version 2.03.0705

I see that the description for the Hotkey Features driver has changed. When I posted about this about a month ago, Hotkey Features version 2.03.0705 was listed for Windows Vista/XP/2000 for the T4x series. Now it is listed for Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit for the T4x series on the driver matrix page and on the download page, yet if you look at the readme file for the same download it shows that it is for Windows Vista/XP/2000 (you have to read the fine print).

Furthermore, if you look at the two pages below, the first one is for the T4x series while the second is for the T6x series, and they are both for the same Hotkey Features version 2.03.0705. The difference is in the description. The first one is Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit, and the second one is Windows Vista/XP/2000. Yet the file name and version is the same.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-68000 - Hotkey driver for Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit - ThinkPad G50, R50, R50e, R50p, R51, R51e, R52, T41, T41p, T42, T42p, T43, T43p, X31, X32, X40, X41, X41 Tablet, Z60m, Z60t
The following systems are supported:
- ThinkPad G50
- ThinkPad R50, R50e, R50p, R51, R51e, R52
- ThinkPad T41, T41p, T42, T42p, T43, T43p
- ThinkPad X31, X32
- ThinkPad X40, X41, X41 Tablet
- ThinkPad Z60m, Z60t

Version: 2.03.0705
Release Date: 2007/05/16
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67047 - Hotkey driver for Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit, XP, 2000 - Notebooks
The following systems are supported:
- ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61
- ThinkPad T60, T60p, T61
- ThinkPad X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet
- ThinkPad Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t
- Lenovo 3000 C200, N100, N200, V100, V200

Version: 2.03.0705
Release Date: 2007/05/16
The readme file states the following.
Jun 14, 2007
Hotkey Features for Windows Vista/XP/2000

Version 2.03.0705
======================================================================
The following ThinkPad systems are supported:

- ThinkPad G50(*1)
- ThinkPad R50(*1), R50e(*1), R50p(*1), R51(*1), R51e(*1), R52(*1)
- ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61
- ThinkPad T41(*1), T41p(*1), T42(*1), T42p(*1), T43(*1), T43p(*1)
- ThinkPad T60, T60p, T61
- ThinkPad X31(*1), X32(*1)
- ThinkPad X40(*1), X41(*1), X41 Tablet(*1)
- ThinkPad X60, X60s, X60 Tablet
- ThinkPad X61, X61s, X61 Tablet
- ThinkPad Z60m(*1), Z60t(*1), Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t
- Lenovo 3000 C200, N100, N200, V100, V200

(Note) *1: Only Windows Vista is supported.
Yes jdhurst, the driver versions you are using work fine on my T42. :)

I believe the mystery is cleared up now.
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#24 Post by gator » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:32 pm

I "found" that I had issue today. I had updated presentation director last moth, but had not updated the hotkey features, but strangely nothing seemed to amiss till today .... for some strange reason, Fn-F7 did not bring up the menu, and simply switched between laptop, external and laptop+external .... I came here, searched for the issue and found this thread, and was able to get things working back again.

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#25 Post by Terrahawk » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:20 pm

I'm not able to get Fn+F7 and presentation director working at all on my X20 despite different hotkey driver and presentation director versions. I guess I will have to live without it.
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#26 Post by jdhurst » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:15 am

I installed the newest HotKey version which is for Vista onto my XP machine. That broke the Fn-F7 capability. I used Software Installer (not Update) to uninstall HotKey. That uninstall took out a lot of other drivers with it (Keyboard Customizer, Web Navigation, On Screen, etc.) I made a note of all that, let it uninstall, reboot, and then re-install all that stuff and version 1.31.0610 of HotKey. The Fn-F7 returned. ... JDH

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#27 Post by gixxerwimp » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:28 am

I did a clean install of WinXP on my T42 and cannot get the Fn+F7 function to work (it just seems to cycle between normal/ext.monitor.only/LCD+monitor). After reading through this thread, I still can't figure out which combination of drivers to use. I have tried the usual un/reinstall procedures w/o success. I prefer to manually install the IBM drivers/utilities because previously one of the Software Installers/Updaters installed all Chinese versions of the ThinkVantage software (I'm in Taiwan). Older driver versions don't seem to be available on www-307.ibm.com. I would appreciate any help you guys can provide.

T42 2373-IRV WinXP SP2
Drivers currently installed:
  • Hotkey driver: 1.31.0610 (7avu43ww.exe)
    Presentation Director: 2.57 (7jua07ww.exe)
    Power Management driver: (7kku06ww.exe)
ryengineer mentions TPFNF7SP.exe in this thread: What happened to my Fn-F7
I can't find any sign of this using msconfig or searching my entire C: partition. There do seem to be corresponding tpfnfx.exe files in C:\Program Files\Lenovo\HOTKEY. Is the fact that TPFNF7SP.exe is missing significant?

Side Note:
I also had problems with Fn+F5 only working for Bluetooth and being unable to control the WiFi radio. I followed some thorough un/re-install instructions for the LAN drivers and Hotkey driver and the problem was resolved (unfortunately, I forgot to bookmark those instructions :oops: )

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Re: need help - first post

#28 Post by ryengineer » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:03 pm

gixxerwimp wrote:snip.............Side Note:
I also had problems with Fn+F5 only working for Bluetooth and being unable to control the WiFi radio. I followed some thorough un/re-install instructions for the LAN drivers and Hotkey driver and the problem was resolved (unfortunately, I forgot to bookmark those instructions :oops: )
Honestly, I don't know what's the problem with Fn+F7 on your machine, the combination you're using is correct and seemed to have worked for other users.

The thinkpads in my vicinity with both Windows XP and Windows Vista have TPFNF7SP.exe in the startup which is connected to Presentation director. If any help, the location of TPFNF7SP.exe is C:\Program files\Lenovo\NPDIRECT\TPFNF7SP.exe .

I think the following thread was the one you were looking for regarding Fn+F5 problem:

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#29 Post by awolfe63 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:30 pm

I had the same problem. Downgrading to hotkey 1.31.0610 seems to have solved it.
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Re: need help - first post

#30 Post by gixxerwimp » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:57 am

ryengineer wrote:snip.....

The thinkpads in my vicinity with both Windows XP and Windows Vista have TPFNF7SP.exe in the startup which is connected to Presentation director. If any help, the location of TPFNF7SP.exe is C:\Program files\Lenovo\NPDIRECT\TPFNF7SP.exe .
There is no C:\Program Files\Lenovo\NPDIRECT\ folder on my machine. I just un/re-installed Presentation Director 2.57 again to give it another chance, but nothing has changed. The default installation folder is C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities and these are the files that were created when I last installed. No other files were created or modified.
http://www.jackchang.net/T42pdirect.jpg

Is the Lenovo\NPDIRECT\ folder the default installation location when using System Update?
Do you think it's worth giving System Update 3.0 a try to fix my problem? (Even though I hate using those automatic update packages cuz they usually install something I don't want ...)

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