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Re: Thinkpadders Rejoice (*LARGE PICS*)

#1141 Post by TankPad » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:17 pm

Puppy wrote:Is it the same Cube company known to provide zero support (read the discussion) for their products ?
I dunno, but a $100 dollar Chinese tablet and expecting future support. An optimistic buyer, imo.
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#1142 Post by bgx » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:27 pm

The same with a good trackpoint and I could be interested as a stop gap solution waiting for something to happen on the lenovo side.

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#1143 Post by Summilux » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:57 am

Tämä. If there's no trackpoint, that's not a real stop gap.
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#1144 Post by w0qj » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:50 pm

Yeah, we buy ThinkPad because of the excellent TrackPoint...
We have used this on while on buses, taxis, boats, etc. along with our mobile broadband, and the precise TrackPoint had served us well!

And ThinkPad are GREAT machines ;)
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#1145 Post by bgx » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:06 pm

ever heard of:

https://panasonic.jp/cns/pc/products/sz6h/

?

12", 16:10, 1920:1200 resolution, <1kg.

which the next thinkpad classic will be around hte same lines...

who makes the panel?

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#1146 Post by Ibthink » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:47 pm

My guess would be Panasonic. Panasonic has its own display-department.
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#1147 Post by Puppy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:25 pm

Ibthink wrote:My guess would be Panasonic. Panasonic has its own display-department.
Isn't Lenovo #1 PC/Laptop company ? If all 12" models had 16:10 display ...
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#1148 Post by Ibthink » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:39 pm

1# PC position is contested now, IDC says HP is the biggest PC manufacturer, Gartner says Lenovo.

If all 12" models had 16:10 displays, ThinkPads would have them as well.
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#1149 Post by exTPfan » Wed May 03, 2017 5:26 pm

Microsoft have finally announced a 3:2 Win 10 laptop. Looks great except for the keyboard. Perhaps this will encourage others to produce a 3:2 laptop.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05 ... -a-laptop/

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#1150 Post by jeffbaichina » Thu May 04, 2017 1:16 pm

Lenovo, take the hint, make 3:2 Paddies for us, yes?

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#1151 Post by TPFanatic » Thu May 04, 2017 1:58 pm

Ya'll can have your 3:2, I want 15.4" WQXGA. If Apple can do it so can Lenovo.
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#1152 Post by TankPad » Thu May 04, 2017 2:07 pm

Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.
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#1153 Post by Ibthink » Thu May 04, 2017 2:59 pm

TankPad wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 2:07 pm
Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.
Its not at all upgradeable or repairable. RAM and SSD are soldered to the Motherboard and ist chassis is most likely glued together, just like with the other Surface devices.
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#1154 Post by TankPad » Thu May 04, 2017 3:19 pm

Ibthink wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 2:59 pm
TankPad wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 2:07 pm
Looks really nice. I like the styling but I wonder how upgradeable/repairable it is. This was the main reason I fell in love with ThinkPads many years ago. With a little luck, it's not going to have soldered RAM etc. Quite expensive for what you get too.
Its not at all upgradeable or repairable. RAM and SSD are soldered to the Motherboard and ist chassis is most likely glued together, just like with the other Surface devices.
Do you have any links to this info? I couldn't find any reviews that covered anything further than the marketing material in any detail.

It seems odd too that they offer the wider choice of colors only on the cheaper model. I quite like the Cobalt Blue.
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#1155 Post by Ibthink » Thu May 04, 2017 4:25 pm

They said this when they announced the device. Soldered SSD was even touted as a feature, because apparently it saves energy.

Watch this: https://youtu.be/pnFVKycmbQs?t=10m23s

"Up to one TB, if you choose, PCIe SSD, and that is integrated directly onto the motherboard..."
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#1156 Post by TankPad » Thu May 04, 2017 4:47 pm

Ibthink wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 4:25 pm
They said this when they announced the device. Soldered SSD was even touted as a feature, because apparently it saves energy.

Watch this: https://youtu.be/pnFVKycmbQs?t=10m23s

"Up to one TB, if you choose, PCIe SSD, and that is integrated directly onto the motherboard..."
Wow, I hope that isn't the case. An integrated SSD in such an expensive device would be a tragedy!
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#1157 Post by Cigarguy » Thu May 04, 2017 11:58 pm

TankPad wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 4:47 pm
Ibthink wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 4:25 pm
They said this when they announced the device. Soldered SSD was even touted as a feature, because apparently it saves energy.

Watch this: https://youtu.be/pnFVKycmbQs?t=10m23s

"Up to one TB, if you choose, PCIe SSD, and that is integrated directly onto the motherboard..."
Wow, I hope that isn't the case. An integrated SSD in such an expensive device would be a tragedy!
No way no how this saves energy. Just another cash grab. No thanks.

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#1158 Post by jdrou » Sun May 07, 2017 11:38 am

TankPad wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 4:47 pm
Wow, I hope that isn't the case. An integrated SSD in such an expensive device would be a tragedy!
It may not be exactly "integrated" on the even more expensive* SP4 but it's certainly not designed to be user-upgradable. Maybe in a year or two I'll take the risk of trying to open mine up to upgrade when it won't be as much of a loss if I break it.

EDIT: * more expensive when it was released at least.
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#1159 Post by TankPad » Sun May 07, 2017 1:08 pm

I've actually opened that model and it was a total nightmare just to get access. I'll stick with Thinkpads for now...
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#1160 Post by jdrou » Mon May 08, 2017 1:31 pm

TankPad wrote:
Sun May 07, 2017 1:08 pm
I've actually opened that model and it was a total nightmare just to get access. I'll stick with Thinkpads for now...
Yeah, I've seen the tear-down images. And some people that managed to modify Surface Pro 3 to give permanent external access to the drive without opening it completely.
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#1161 Post by bgx » Fri May 19, 2017 5:03 pm

https://www.51nb.com/xinwen/hangyedongt ... 83292.html

no reaction yet?

So what seems confirm is T470 base with 7row keyboard.
Seems in line with what some people in the confidence shared (not much - but something like it would be based on a current design).

Unclear about the screen. If it is the same 16:9 as a plain T470, i wont buy it.
I hope they were able to fill the screen bezel with a custom screen with as thin as possible bezel. Then i might consider it.

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#1162 Post by Puppy » Fri May 19, 2017 5:25 pm

bgx wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 5:03 pm
Unclear about the screen. If it is the same 16:9 as a plain T470, i wont buy it.
Same here. The article is weird.
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#1163 Post by Summilux » Sat May 20, 2017 4:20 am

Bah. Since we can't have nice things, and the most important thing to me is the keyboard, if this half-arsched thing has a non-chicklet keyboard, I'll at least and out of spite consider it... :roll:
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#1164 Post by Puppy » Sat May 20, 2017 5:15 am

It is still funny that there is such issue to make single display ... maybe we should ask Elon Musk for help. A spaceship is required to manufacture it :)
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#1165 Post by bgx » Sat May 20, 2017 7:23 am

cant we fit a 16:10 14" (or 14.1") in the bezel? http://www.displaywars.com/14-inch-16x9 ... inch-16x10 that would be more interesting, it is almost the same width, but u have more vertical space(and less wasted bezel around).
13.3" 16:10 would make a T470 machine look sily: even more bezel than a 16:9.
Edit: seems to work! X1C height is 8.55", and they can fit a 6.86" screen inside. That is, they can do it with a 1.69" gap between screen and real estate.
For the T470 with a 14.1" 16:10, we would have: height 9.15" for a 7.47" height screen, that leaves 1.68" gap. So seems doable (if u really need 1.69" and not 1.68", just do a 14" and not a 14.1"). Width is not changed, so it is a non issue.
Then I would be thrilled.
that would explain many things: -magnesium T470 showing up. -why T470 has TB and not T470p, which else didnt seem to make sense. -no redesign for T470, because they need wasted bezel on 16:9 version to accomodate for a 16:10 screen.

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#1166 Post by prophetic » Sat May 20, 2017 1:51 pm

bgx wrote:
Sat May 20, 2017 7:23 am
cant we fit a 16:10 14" (or 14.1") in the bezel?
I've read people saying that 14.1" 16:10 isn't manufactured for Apple, so it's not easy to get a hold of anymore. I don't know anything about MacBooks, though...
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#1167 Post by Nigellus » Thu May 25, 2017 11:37 am

micrex22 wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:51 am
At this point I'm wondering if the title of this thread should be changed from 'Thinkpaddres Rejoice' to 'Lenovo will never make a modern T43'.
That's what I think. It's been years since they told us to expect a retro ThinkPad.

I think the plug was pulled and they care so little about it or their core customer base that they never told anyone.

Way to leave free money on the table, Lenovo. I would have bought one, and I don't buy new laptops.
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#1168 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu May 25, 2017 2:02 pm

I think the competition already (almost) made what we we are looking for!
14.1" IPS 1080p screen, 7th gen Intel processors, the latest graphics, a new USB Type-C port, and up to 32 GB of fast DDR4 RAM.
Available with Linux ex-factory, NO MORE Winblows!

And the winner is:... System76 Lemur, starting at only $699.-

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#1169 Post by bgx » Thu May 25, 2017 5:59 pm

cheaper than TP, sure
but in what is it better?

keyboard seems worse.
no trackpoint....
fabric does not seem better.
16/9.
If i wnat that, i can buy a X1C. More expansive, but seem better to me.

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#1170 Post by Ibthink » Thu May 25, 2017 6:47 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 2:02 pm
And the winner is:... System76 Lemur, starting at only $699.-
Seems like a cheap Chinese barebone chassis to me. Not really sure whats so special about this one, other than that it doesn´t come with Windows.
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