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middleton question
My T61 has 3 partitions. XP, Linux, & the original Repair & Recovery
My linux is 32bit and my plan is to install the middleton bios so I can run 64bit linux.
However, I want to keep the XP partition. Will XP continue to run after updating the firmware to middleton?
I just don't want any surprises. If I lose it, I lose it. But I'd rather keep it.
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My linux is 32bit and my plan is to install the middleton bios so I can run 64bit linux.
However, I want to keep the XP partition. Will XP continue to run after updating the firmware to middleton?
I just don't want any surprises. If I lose it, I lose it. But I'd rather keep it.
thanks
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Re: middleton question
I'm not sure why you would need to flash the Middleton BIOS to run 64 bit Linux. In any case, flashing Middleton's BIOS won't do anything to your hard disk or existing OS/partitions.
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Re: middleton question
M's BIOS will give your machine Slic2.1 for Vista/W7, SATA-II speed and a bunch of other niceties.
IMHO it is a must for EVERY T61/X61/R61/X300. Get it here.
And of course a change to SSD will blow you out of your socks!
From the downloaded ISO, make a self-booting CD/DVD (not USB).
Remove your HD/SSD temporarily before the flash.
Afterwards you will not see any changes in the BIOS.
It won't harm any existing drives or OS installations.
BTW: you can run 64-bit OS any time, with or without M's BIOS.
IMHO it is a must for EVERY T61/X61/R61/X300. Get it here.
And of course a change to SSD will blow you out of your socks!
From the downloaded ISO, make a self-booting CD/DVD (not USB).
Remove your HD/SSD temporarily before the flash.
Afterwards you will not see any changes in the BIOS.
It won't harm any existing drives or OS installations.
BTW: you can run 64-bit OS any time, with or without M's BIOS.
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Re: middleton question
Really? I'll have to give that a shot. Didn't know that 32bit systems could do that. Thanks.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:06 amBTW: you can run 64-bit OS any time, with or without M's BIOS.
Re: middleton question
Every T61/p is a 64-bit system, since all of them sport 64-bit capable CPUs.
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Re: middleton question
Thanks! I've started the linux x64 install.
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Re: middleton question
I never wouldda guessed that my T61 could run 64bit. Have linux Debian x64 running now and as soon as I find time I've gotta tackle the hinge issue (spray lube didn't work). Hopefully once I get it out maybe I can free it up manually & with liberal application of silicone based spray.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:06 amBTW: you can run 64-bit OS any time, with or without M's BIOS.
Thanks for the many suggestions.
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Re: middleton question
Take the hinges off and soak them in marvel mystery oil or just plain old oil if that's all you have around. Soak them for a couple days and hopefully that will free them up.jharrison29 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:03 pmI never wouldda guessed that my T61 could run 64bit. Have linux Debian x64 running now and as soon as I find time I've gotta tackle the hinge issue (spray lube didn't work). Hopefully once I get it out maybe I can free it up manually & with liberal application of silicone based spray.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:06 amBTW: you can run 64-bit OS any time, with or without M's BIOS.
Thanks for the many suggestions.
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Re: middleton question
Like WD40, silicone oils is not always the appropriate solution for lubrication.
You likely need penetration capability of a very light oil, but you also don't want it to become so slippery that it won't keep position.
And you don't want to chemically attack the bushing inside the hinge, whatever it is made of.
ps silicone oil/grease has a reputation of being VERY difficult to remove.
You likely need penetration capability of a very light oil, but you also don't want it to become so slippery that it won't keep position.
And you don't want to chemically attack the bushing inside the hinge, whatever it is made of.
ps silicone oil/grease has a reputation of being VERY difficult to remove.
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Re: middleton question
PB Blaster or Berrymans chemtool come to mind for this application.ac12 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:12 pmLike WD40, silicone oils is not always the appropriate solution for lubrication.
You likely need penetration capability of a very light oil, but you also don't want it to become so slippery that it won't keep position.
And you don't want to chemically attack the bushing inside the hinge, whatever it is made of.
ps silicone oil/grease has a reputation of being VERY difficult to remove.
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Re: middleton question
I pulled the machine apart. I don't know if the hinge is stiff or not, I stopped when I found the that magnesium frame that holds the lcd & hinges was cracked at the hinge.storm-chaser wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:36 amTake the hinges off and soak them in marvel mystery oil or just plain old oil if that's all you have around. Soak them for a couple days and hopefully that will free them up.
I suppose if the hinge was stiff it could have caused the metal of the frame to flex and crack. But maybe the very thin metal cracked with normal usage.
Photo of cracked frame
Tomorrow I'll finish taking the LCD & hinges out of the frame and check the tightness of the hinge. If need be I will try to loosen/free up the hinges.
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Re: middleton question
I know there is a lot of stress in that area but you might be able to get away with JB-Weld as a temporary or even long term fix if for some reason you have trouble locating another frame.
Best way to use JB-Weld in this application would be multiple thin coats allowing for 24 hours dry time between each layer. Would obviously help if you can access both sides of the crack and apply JB weld to both sides. I can't tell from the one picture if you have access to the otherside of the frame.
You might want to simply invest in new hinges as well. IIRC you should be able to find them on eBay relatively cheap I refreshed an old 15.4" T61 with new hinges and it really makes a world of difference. Hinges are definitely a weak point on these laptops and in terms of durability are just not up to the task in most cases.
Best way to use JB-Weld in this application would be multiple thin coats allowing for 24 hours dry time between each layer. Would obviously help if you can access both sides of the crack and apply JB weld to both sides. I can't tell from the one picture if you have access to the otherside of the frame.
You might want to simply invest in new hinges as well. IIRC you should be able to find them on eBay relatively cheap I refreshed an old 15.4" T61 with new hinges and it really makes a world of difference. Hinges are definitely a weak point on these laptops and in terms of durability are just not up to the task in most cases.
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Re: middleton question
Great info, thanks. I have sourced a new frame on eBay (thanks RBS) and looked at hinges. There are both used hinges (USA) and new offerings from China. Have read poor things about China new hinges. For the price of frame & hinges I’m starting to ponder just getting a used top end off eBay. But I fear missing pixels, unknown damage, etc.
I’m currently in process of removing LCD. After removal will post pic of opposite side of crack. I like the JB Weld solution.
Could not find my Marvel oil so soaked hinge in fresh 10-30w motor oil. Noticable improvement and it’s back into the soak for more time. I think Marvel better solution (no pun here) and will pick it up and use that instead.
Even tho I will buy replacement parts I’m determined to fix this just for satisfaction of doing to.
Any ideas on getting the doublesided tape that is along the wdge of the LCD that holds down sections of the bezel?
I’m currently in process of removing LCD. After removal will post pic of opposite side of crack. I like the JB Weld solution.
Could not find my Marvel oil so soaked hinge in fresh 10-30w motor oil. Noticable improvement and it’s back into the soak for more time. I think Marvel better solution (no pun here) and will pick it up and use that instead.
Even tho I will buy replacement parts I’m determined to fix this just for satisfaction of doing to.
Any ideas on getting the doublesided tape that is along the wdge of the LCD that holds down sections of the bezel?
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Re: middleton question
Link for other side of the crack. LCD removed, this is looking from screen side, lower right.
T61 broken frame due to stiff hinge
T61 broken frame due to stiff hinge
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Re: middleton question
Thanks again, did this, soaking for about a week. It did help. It appears as if there was old dried grease around the pin. They still felt tight but once I put it all back together it is working well (so far).storm-chaser wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:36 amTake the hinges off and soak them in marvel mystery oil or just plain old oil if that's all you have around. Soak them for a couple days and hopefully that will free them up.
I did buy a set of used hinges (they proved to be 'floppy' like so many complaints I've read). I have them soaking now and intend to attempt to open them up to see if that is a viable approach in the future.
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