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Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
As of April 2019: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space on your hard drive or SSD.
www.extremetech.com/extreme/290401-wind ... rage-space
Mainly more HDD/SSD storage space for Win10 upgrades.
This has implications for older ThinkPads, and for those whose HDD/SSD are almost full.
www.extremetech.com/extreme/290401-wind ... rage-space
Mainly more HDD/SSD storage space for Win10 upgrades.
This has implications for older ThinkPads, and for those whose HDD/SSD are almost full.
Last edited by w0qj on Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Before I had a copy of x86 Windows 10 running on a 32GB mSATA SSD for a T430u, and it didn't take long before the drive is totally filled, despite installing all apps and data on the HDD. Made the upgrade to a 256GB one and never regretted it (despite the price tag).
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
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Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
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A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
You can use empty USB flash drive as a temporary storage for the upgrade.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
It seems they will launch the sequel of candy crush any day now with the additional storage requirement
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ThinkPad X230: i5-3320M CPU 3.3GHz - 8GB RAM 1600 MHz - SSD 860 EVO 500GB - Debian - ME_cleaned
ThinkPad X230: i5-3320M CPU 3.3GHz - 8GB RAM 1600 MHz - SSD 860 EVO 500GB - Debian - ME_cleaned
Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
And to think....
My first install of a Windows GUI (Windows for Workgroups 3.11) required all of 8 MEGABYTES
Where will it end??
Dave
My first install of a Windows GUI (Windows for Workgroups 3.11) required all of 8 MEGABYTES
Where will it end??
Dave
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
It won't end, but the hardware upgrading cycle is slowing down at least. Tbh 32GB requirement isn't really a problem for me. My ThinkPad T43 came with 40GB HDD (Being the first ThinkPad that can actually run Windows 10 setup)… I get that the 32GB mSATA users are gonna be in trouble, but they are already in trouble as I have attempted that 2 years ago that ended up with <100MB free space (and lots of wear on the drive as a result)
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Man, that takes up nearly all of my 10MB MFM drive!! What will I do now?
(but really I don't see this a problem in a day and age where you can buy a 128gb SSD for 20$ at the local shop)
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Update/Clarification from MS:
www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-10-ma ... 39576.html
"...[Microsoft] clarified that the 32GB requirement is only for new devices from its OEM partners."
ie: Older devices not affected by this new 32 GB minimum of storage space.
[Edit: Just to clarify, MS said this 32GB minimum requirement is aimed at small form factor Win10 devices such as MS Surface, where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.]
www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-10-ma ... 39576.html
"...[Microsoft] clarified that the 32GB requirement is only for new devices from its OEM partners."
ie: Older devices not affected by this new 32 GB minimum of storage space.
[Edit: Just to clarify, MS said this 32GB minimum requirement is aimed at small form factor Win10 devices such as MS Surface, where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.]
Last edited by w0qj on Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Retired Thinkpads: X250 | T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
Current Thinkpads: X1E3 | X1E1 | X1C10 | X1C9 | X1C4 | X1C3 | X230
Retired Thinkpads: X250 | T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
I just freshly installed win10 pro 1903 64bit on T430. After all the updates applied, storage used is 23gb in total.
X1 Yoga Gen6, i5-1145G7/16GB/1TB 970EVO+, 14" UHD+ HDR
X230 Tablet, i7-3520M/16GB/512GB 860EVO, 12.5" HD, LED IPS
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
I just installed Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit on a Dell Precision T3500 tower, including all updates, and then disabled hibernation and ran Cleanmgr /sageset. Excluding the paging file, this install takes up only 9,595,342,848 bytes, or 8.93 GB.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Just to clarify, MS said this 32GB minimum requirement is aimed especially at small form factor Win10 devices such as MS Surface or other similar devices,
where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.
where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
One of my clients has two Lenovo N22 mini-laptops with only 32GB SSD/eMMC soldered to the system board-- they're practically Chromebooks with Win 8 bolted on. An in-place Win 10 upgrade is impossible. They have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
Just add a microSDXC card. 512GB ones are now under $100, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Perfo ... way&sr=8-6axur-delmeria wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 amThey have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
When my (relatively cheap) phone has more space than a laptop...well something is seriously wrong with the laptop. 32GB of storage? I mean my T42p came with twice that from the factory in 2005!axur-delmeria wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 amOne of my clients has two Lenovo N22 mini-laptops with only 32GB SSD/eMMC soldered to the system board-- they're practically Chromebooks with Win 8 bolted on. An in-place Win 10 upgrade is impossible. They have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
I'm pretty sure that's the equivalent of plugging a punctured gas tank in a car with duct tape and saying it now has enough gas.pianowizard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:01 amJust add a microSDXC card. 512GB ones are now under $100, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Perfo ... way&sr=8-6
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019
It's probably the same as the N22 Chromebook but with Windows shoehorned in. Well, they bought it without consulting me, so that's their problem.Thinkpad4by3 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:40 pmWhen my (relatively cheap) phone has more space than a laptop...well something is seriously wrong with the laptop. 32GB of storage? I mean my T42p came with twice that from the factory in 2005!
Planned Purchase: T480s i5-8350 FHD Touch
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