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X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
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X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Lenovo continues being on the decline.
Read more here:
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that succeeds in being worse than its predecessor
Found another revelation (19-02-2020):
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that may not have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 GPU after all
Read more here:
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that succeeds in being worse than its predecessor
Found another revelation (19-02-2020):
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that may not have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 GPU after all
Still NOT a great day for a Guinness! (the Real Black Stuff).
Ireland is on FULL lockdown until at least 31 January 2021!
Covid-19: Stay safe, so Mask it or Casket!
Ireland is on FULL lockdown until at least 31 January 2021!
Covid-19: Stay safe, so Mask it or Casket!
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Isn't it obvious that until they start making 7-row keyboards again, they will keep on being garbage? 

Thinkpad 25 (20K7), T490 (20N3), Yoga 14 (20FY), T430s (IPS FHD + Classic Keyboard), X220 4291-4BG
X61 7673-V2V, T60 2007-QPG, T42 2373-F7G, X32 (IPS Screen), A31p w/ Ultrabay Numpad, A21m 2628-GXU
X61 7673-V2V, T60 2007-QPG, T42 2373-F7G, X32 (IPS Screen), A31p w/ Ultrabay Numpad, A21m 2628-GXU
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Wow, many thanks for everyone's heads up!
We were just about to pull the trigger for a X1E2 (X1 Extreme Gen 2), decided to make a last minute check on this great ThinkPads.com forum...
Looks like X1E2 still need time to iron out issues... will give it some time and revisit this procurement later on
Thanks again!
We were just about to pull the trigger for a X1E2 (X1 Extreme Gen 2), decided to make a last minute check on this great ThinkPads.com forum...
Looks like X1E2 still need time to iron out issues... will give it some time and revisit this procurement later on

Thanks again!
Daily Driver: (X1E3) X1 Extreme 3rd Gen | mobile broadband (WWAN)
Current Thinkpads: X1E3 | X1E1 | X1C4 | X1C3 | X250 | X230
Retired Thinkpads: T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
~~IBM Thinkpad era computer bag !
Current Thinkpads: X1E3 | X1E1 | X1C4 | X1C3 | X250 | X230
Retired Thinkpads: T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
~~IBM Thinkpad era computer bag !
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
I second this. I am really close to pulling the trigger on x1e gen 2 (practically waiting for a business trip tot he u.s.)w0qj wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:06 pmWow, many thanks for everyone's heads up!
We were just about to pull the trigger for a X1E2 (X1 Extreme Gen 2), decided to make a last minute check on this great ThinkPads.com forum...
Looks like X1E2 still need time to iron out issues... will give it some time and revisit this procurement later on
Thanks again!

Daily drivers: x225 FrankenPad and t430. Thinkpad x301 overhaul+FSB mod.
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
PS: I suggest reading comments too. The 4K oled seems to be really weird.
Daily drivers: x225 FrankenPad and t430. Thinkpad x301 overhaul+FSB mod.
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Across the board for all new models, or just the X1E2?
240, 380ED, 760C, 760CD, 760E, 760EL, 760LD, 760LD, 760XD, 760XD, A30, E520, G40, I1300, P53, R31, R40, R51, R52, R61, T20, T30, T40, T41, T42, T43, T43P, T60, T61, T400, T410, T420, T430, T460, X1C2, X30, X40, X220, X301 and on, and on, and on...
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Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Found another revelation (19-02-2020):
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that may not have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 GPU after all
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that may not have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 GPU after all
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Unfortunately, the x1e is still one of the best you can get if you value scalability, trackpoint, socketed components etc. I am just in the purchasing process. (tedious Lenovo experience...). If my purchase in the US fails, I go for 2nd hand P1.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:18 amFound another revelation (19-02-2020):
ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2: A multimedia laptop that may not have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 GPU after all
Daily drivers: x225 FrankenPad and t430. Thinkpad x301 overhaul+FSB mod.
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
I was considering the Gen 2 for the OLED screen, but may just keep my Gen1 a bit longer.
Thinkpad X-41 Tablet 1869 CSU- 1.6GHz
Thinkpad T-42P 2373 GUU-2.1 GHz; 2 GB RAM; Mini-dock
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RIP-Thinkpad T41 2379 DJU
Thinkpad T-42P 2373 GUU-2.1 GHz; 2 GB RAM; Mini-dock
::Sierra AirCard WWAN 875::NMB Thai::
RIP-Thinkpad T41 2379 DJU
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
==>We are willing to source a new X1E2 (X1 Extreme Gen 2) with a 2 TB SSD when it comes out in our region, along with a 1080p 500nits IPS LCD screen to extend battery life while on the field (1080p IPS LCD screen use much less battery power as compared to the 4k OLED screen).
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From our own experience using X1E1 (X1 Extreme Gen 1) as a workhorse machine for over a year... especially in view of this Covid-19 enforced home office work:
We love our X1E1, but battery life consideration *SHOULD* have overrode our (clouded) judgement for 4k OLED screen...
~Our X1E1 4k OLED screen gave us a serious battery hit, to the point that we're paranoid whenever we bring out our X1E1 to the field without AC power brick with us...always worried if it will run out of battery before job is done...
~On the occasional
time we watch movies, it's on our ThinkVision M14 external LCD monitor connected to our X1E1.
ie: We almost *never* watch movies on the 4k OLED screen of X1E1. (By the way, movies on 4k OLED screen of X1E1 was gorgeous!)
Just our 2 cents...
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From our own experience using X1E1 (X1 Extreme Gen 1) as a workhorse machine for over a year... especially in view of this Covid-19 enforced home office work:
We love our X1E1, but battery life consideration *SHOULD* have overrode our (clouded) judgement for 4k OLED screen...
~Our X1E1 4k OLED screen gave us a serious battery hit, to the point that we're paranoid whenever we bring out our X1E1 to the field without AC power brick with us...always worried if it will run out of battery before job is done...
~On the occasional

ie: We almost *never* watch movies on the 4k OLED screen of X1E1. (By the way, movies on 4k OLED screen of X1E1 was gorgeous!)
Just our 2 cents...
Daily Driver: (X1E3) X1 Extreme 3rd Gen | mobile broadband (WWAN)
Current Thinkpads: X1E3 | X1E1 | X1C4 | X1C3 | X250 | X230
Retired Thinkpads: T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
~~IBM Thinkpad era computer bag !
Current Thinkpads: X1E3 | X1E1 | X1C4 | X1C3 | X250 | X230
Retired Thinkpads: T410 | T42 | 560 (circa 1996)
~~IBM Thinkpad era computer bag !
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
Just a day ago I was close to buying a used X1 Carbon Thinkpad Gen 2 when I came to understand that the Thinkpad keyboard that I so love isn't in this machine! No FN button at bottom left, no FN buttons, but the kicker was absent L/C/R mouse buttons at the top of the trackpad.
"If a star were a grain of salt, you could fit all the stars visible to the naked eye on a teaspoon, but all the stars in the universe would fill a ball eight miles wide." - A Briefer History of Time, Stephen Hawking & Leonard Mlodinow
Dec. 2010: Now thought to be over 11 miles wide!
Dec. 2010: Now thought to be over 11 miles wide!
Re: X1 Extreme Gen 2 worse than its predecessor
The X1 Carbon Gen 2 was the most unique and worst Thinkpad in this regard. Subsequent generation restored all these.Muse wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:31 pmJust a day ago I was close to buying a used X1 Carbon Thinkpad Gen 2 when I came to understand that the Thinkpad keyboard that I so love isn't in this machine! No FN button at bottom left, no FN buttons, but the kicker was absent L/C/R mouse buttons at the top of the trackpad.
Thinkpad 25 (20K7), T490 (20N3), Yoga 14 (20FY), T430s (IPS FHD + Classic Keyboard), X220 4291-4BG
X61 7673-V2V, T60 2007-QPG, T42 2373-F7G, X32 (IPS Screen), A31p w/ Ultrabay Numpad, A21m 2628-GXU
X61 7673-V2V, T60 2007-QPG, T42 2373-F7G, X32 (IPS Screen), A31p w/ Ultrabay Numpad, A21m 2628-GXU
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