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Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
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Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput.
Thought I'd say hello to y'all and chime in with the BEST COMMUNITY EVER
Hope everyone's well.
Thought I'd say hello to y'all and chime in with the BEST COMMUNITY EVER
Hope everyone's well.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
There's never a bad time to buy a used Thinkpad and once again become a bona fide member of this community.
Planned Purchase: T480s i5-8350 FHD Touch
Impulse Buy: Thinkpad not named for safety reasons
RIP: X220 4291-C91 X61 7676-A24 760XD-U9E
Impulse Buy: Thinkpad not named for safety reasons
RIP: X220 4291-C91 X61 7676-A24 760XD-U9E
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Well technically now is the bad time to buy an used ThinkPad (or any used laptop) if you want something that is capable of real daily driving (T61 or newer) as the Coronavirus pandemic has exhausted the second hand markets in many ways. I also made a hefty amount of profits for selling these older resurrected ThinkPads and Latitudes during the pandemic for this reason. Just look at how 4GB DDR2 sticks and X9000's went up in price for example.axur-delmeria wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:04 amThere's never a bad time to buy a used Thinkpad and once again become a bona fide member of this community.
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UXGA:
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T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
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600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
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T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Now that you mention it, I've noticed that 2nd hand Thinkpads are expensive right now. Just yesterday I found someone online selling an X220 around the same price I bought one five years ago (almost 300 USD).
Planned Purchase: T480s i5-8350 FHD Touch
Impulse Buy: Thinkpad not named for safety reasons
RIP: X220 4291-C91 X61 7676-A24 760XD-U9E
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I'm not sure about the RAM costs. I recently bought four 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 for the same or less than what I paid a few years ago. Hynix modules.
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T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Well the cheapest one I can find on eBay is like C$55 and that is only a one off deal. The rest of them are all question marks from China.cadillacmike68 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:54 pmI'm not sure about the RAM costs. I recently bought four 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 for the same or less than what I paid a few years ago. Hynix modules.
Compare that with the C$30 price tag I paid for the sticks about 6 months ago, there is just no comparison.
Getting fed up with the bad options on eBay, I am ordering straight from Taobao and lucky me that I know someone who's coming to Toronto despite the whole pandemic situation
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
kfzhu1229 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:15 pmWell the cheapest one I can find on eBay is like C$55 and that is only a one off deal. The rest of them are all question marks from China.cadillacmike68 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:54 pmI'm not sure about the RAM costs. I recently bought four 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 for the same or less than what I paid a few years ago. Hynix modules.
Compare that with the C$30 price tag I paid for the sticks about 6 months ago, there is just no comparison.
Getting fed up with the bad options on eBay, I am ordering straight from Taobao and lucky me that I know someone who's coming to Toronto despite the whole pandemic situation
The four modules I recently bought were from china. They arrived in about 2 weeks, and they work.
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T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Okay yeah at that point I will source straight from Taobao. it's cheaper, safer (if you order the listings by seller reputation) and arrives faster by 22 July because going to Canada is just that much slower in this Coronavirus pandemic. I have a tracked parcel from the US still not arriving here after a month!cadillacmike68 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:22 pmThe four modules I recently bought were from china. They arrived in about 2 weeks, and they work.
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
OK, If alibaba and the 40 thieves can get it to you faster that's good. I haven't tried them before.
I've had decent luck with ebay, but I try to not order from china. That's not always possible, but I have only had one or two sipping issues. I've actually had more shipping issues from the US than chine, but buy about 20-50x more domestically.
I've actually has more issues with amazon than with ebay over the years.
Canada to US and the other way around are slower now. Not much either of us can do about that right now.
I've had decent luck with ebay, but I try to not order from china. That's not always possible, but I have only had one or two sipping issues. I've actually had more shipping issues from the US than chine, but buy about 20-50x more domestically.
I've actually has more issues with amazon than with ebay over the years.
Canada to US and the other way around are slower now. Not much either of us can do about that right now.
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760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
The main bottleneck is Chicago airport, where staff has been reduced to less than 30% due to Covid-19.
They must have a new mountain range in their USPS-sorting Dept.
They must have a new mountain range in their USPS-sorting Dept.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I know this is going off topic but I would like to update that it seems like those sticks in China are selling out extremely fast right now.
I was having my eyes on some nice heatsinked Kingston 4G DDR2 sticks and they sold out in a matter of days. Now I am just lucky enough to buy out the last of the Hynix and Elpida sticks at ¥200 and now all that remains out of these good sellers are in the price range of ¥250!
X9000/X9100 are also receiving the same demand on Taobao.
I was having my eyes on some nice heatsinked Kingston 4G DDR2 sticks and they sold out in a matter of days. Now I am just lucky enough to buy out the last of the Hynix and Elpida sticks at ¥200 and now all that remains out of these good sellers are in the price range of ¥250!
X9000/X9100 are also receiving the same demand on Taobao.
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Yeah, they seem to be going fast.
Seems no one in the US has any for sale - probably because all the US buyers bought them to upgrade their machines and not to sell.
Seems no one in the US has any for sale - probably because all the US buyers bought them to upgrade their machines and not to sell.
600 600X
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I'm still sitting on a load of 512MB, 1GB and 2GB DDR2 sticks.
But I have only one 4GB DDR2-5300 and one 4GB DDR2-6400.
But I have only one 4GB DDR2-5300 and one 4GB DDR2-6400.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
My 10 4GB DDR2s are all in use but I have nearly 30 1GB / 2GB modules. About half are in use in the T61s that are not in active use.
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760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
When looking for RAM I got impression 1Gb/2Gb DDR2 sticks are rather plentiful in the market place..
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Yeah because they are lot more mass produced and that they don't fail nearly as often. 16 high density chips means more heat and more chances of failure. I remembered when I was buying 4GB DDR2 sticks in person to a local shop, that seller had half a dozen of these marked as bad before finally digging out one that is good.
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
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T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
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Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I can confirm this, I have noticed that the 4 Gb sticks made the palmrest and touchpad area on my T601 Frankenpad a lot warmer compared to when it had only 2 x 2Gb sticks. I might even change back to having less RAM, as my use scenario is not memory hungry anyway.
It's a shame there is no way to somehow undervolt the RAM like you can do with the CPU. It would help a lot with temps.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
You can get cooling fins for those RAM modules...
If you put in PC2-6400, they run cooler than PC2-5300.
If you put in PC2-6400, they run cooler than PC2-5300.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
You also run the risk of making it unstable.
With regards to memory undervolting, I only know of one case: in a Thinkpad X220, where DDR3L (1.35v) ran at the regular DDR3 voltage of 1.5v, apparently caused it to run hot and cause intermittent RAM errors. So the owner modified the system board to reduce the RAM voltage to 1.45V-- though it was still higher than the proper DDR3L voltage, the RAM errors disappeared.
Planned Purchase: T480s i5-8350 FHD Touch
Impulse Buy: Thinkpad not named for safety reasons
RIP: X220 4291-C91 X61 7676-A24 760XD-U9E
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I'm already planning to get two dozens of them off taobao because of the 4gb ddr2 sticks and Latitude c840 overheating the ram sticksRealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:41 amYou can get cooling fins for those RAM modules...
If you put in PC2-6400, they run cooler than PC2-5300.
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Precision M4300 X9000 8gb 160gb WUXGA Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Yes the modules I have are PC2-6400, at least they were advertised and labelled like that. Granted they came from China...so who knows.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:41 amYou can get cooling fins for those RAM modules...
If you put in PC2-6400, they run cooler than PC2-5300.
I haven't opened up the palmrest recently, but I remember the space is VERY tight there for the RAM. What kind of heatsink could fit there?
EDIT:
I just did a quick search, and I see the heatsinks you were referring to. They are completely flat, I wonder how much they actually help. Granted they still somewhat increase the surface area for heat exchange. I tried to see if I could buy just the heatsinks by themselves, but couldn't find anything, only a few SODIMM modules that already had these heat spreaders pre-installed.
Thinkpad T60, 15" Flexview, with mods (Xiphmont's LED mod, T500 heatsink, cpu undervolt, reinforced frame)
Thinkpad T601, 15" Flexview, with mods (Xiphmont's LED mod, T500 heatsink, cpu undervolt, reinforced frame)
Thinkpad X32
Thinkpad T22
NEC ProSpeed SX/20
Thinkpad T601, 15" Flexview, with mods (Xiphmont's LED mod, T500 heatsink, cpu undervolt, reinforced frame)
Thinkpad X32
Thinkpad T22
NEC ProSpeed SX/20
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
OK, that explains the black applique on both sides of one of my T42 RAM modules.
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T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T60 T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530
760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 1@ 1GHz SXGA+ 4 more; T23 2647 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+ 3 more
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
OTOH, those fins/heatspreaders apparently do next to nothing and are hardly worth the effort/expense.
Mostly people just want them for looks!
If they were of any normal/useful use (not talking about overclocking here), we would have seen reviews about them.
But I couldn't find any reviews, only some discussions like: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ra ... s.2127969/
Mostly people just want them for looks!
If they were of any normal/useful use (not talking about overclocking here), we would have seen reviews about them.
But I couldn't find any reviews, only some discussions like: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ra ... s.2127969/
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PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Do you recall the origin of this reference? It would be interesting to see what was done and whether it can be applied to the three preceding generations.axur-delmeria wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:49 amWith regards to memory undervolting, I only know of one case: in a Thinkpad X220, where DDR3L (1.35v) ran at the regular DDR3 voltage of 1.5v, apparently caused it to run hot and cause intermittent RAM errors. So the owner modified the system board to reduce the RAM voltage to 1.45V-- though it was still higher than the proper DDR3L voltage, the RAM errors disappeared.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I tried a google search. The only reference I found was me mentioning it in this forum back in 2018. Didn't realize it was that long ago. :O
I'll try to look for it though. Since I just replaced my X220's HDD with an SSD and haven't moved back all the files, I'll have to sift through the files in the old drive, hoping that I saved a copy.
What I remember that it was a board modification. He probably looked at the schematics, found the voltage regulator IC for the RAM slots, looked up its datasheet, and changed some passive components in order to change the output voltage.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
That is why it is interesting; with the T61 NVIDIA GPUs binh physically set the ADP 3209 VID to lower the voltage supply which was the basis for later modding the vBIOS to achieve the same ends. There is no safety net like that provided by booting off the PCIE graphics card BIOS option here though, so seeing it done via hardware first would help stiffen the spine.
Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Hellocrashnburn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:17 amThought I'd say hello to y'all and chime in with the BEST COMMUNITY EVER
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
I ended up getting a dozen pairs of these copper based graphite coated heat spreaders here:RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:30 amOTOH, those fins/heatspreaders apparently do next to nothing and are hardly worth the effort/expense.
Mostly people just want them for looks!
If they were of any normal/useful use (not talking about overclocking here), we would have seen reviews about them.
But I couldn't find any reviews, only some discussions like: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ra ... s.2127969/
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I ended up putting some on the 4GB DDR2 sticks and others on some DDR sticks on the Latitude C840 because the RAM stick was overheating so badly it was giving me bluescreens! It can't be a motherboard fault because all 3 of my C840's does this if I leave the sticks bare! That is because like the A31p, the Latitude C840 has a backplate for the northbridge to cool down but the DIMM B slot is right beside it getting all the heat! The temperature difference between DIMM A and B is so obvious that you can feel with your bare hands, even if you put a pair of identical sticks of much higher clocked PC-2700S!
I also put some on some lower quality 1GB DDR sticks with Adata chips that overheat and bluescreens even on something like a T42.
So far as far as I can tell both bluescreens went away and as the case of T42, it now passes memtest86 whereas before the stick would heat up and fail consistently at test #9. Sure there is also a copper pipe I have placed on top of the RAM stick but it was failing before as well, even with the copper pipe attached onto foil tape.
For the 4GB DDR2 sticks, it is really that the Dell Latitudes have thermal diodes underneath each RAM slots and the D830's bottom cover run hot, therefore the DIMM B stick also run hot, and sometimes it will run at Zone 4 (equivalent of Fan 7 on ThinkPads) on idle when the VRMs and MOSFETs heat up with charger attached! This thing will knock a few degrees out of it, enough for the Zone numbers to change, but outside of these dire overheating situations it probably doesn't do much.
That said though it is more like US$1.5 for a pair (both sides of the DIMM) so I don't mind buying a dozen of them, and you might wanna put them on valuable RAM sticks like 4GB DDR2 sticks to hopefully prolong their lifespan by some time.
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Hola!TTY wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:54 pmHellocrashnburn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:17 amThought I'd say hello to y'all and chime in with the BEST COMMUNITY EVER
T61 8892-02U: 14.1"SXGA+/2.2C2D/4G/XP|Adv Mini Dock|30" Gateway XHD3000 WQXGA via Dual-link DVI
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Re: Just missed the TP forums and discussions.. been few years since my last TP went sticky kaput
Hola!TTY wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:54 pmHellocrashnburn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:17 amThought I'd say hello to y'all and chime in with the BEST COMMUNITY EVER
T61 8892-02U: 14.1"SXGA+/2.2C2D/4G/XP|Adv Mini Dock|30" Gateway XHD3000 WQXGA via Dual-link DVI
X61T 7767-96U: 12.1"SXGA+/1.6C2D/3G/Vista|Ultrabase
W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
T43 1875-DLU: 14.1"XGA/1.7PM-740/1G/XP (Old)
X61T 7767-96U: 12.1"SXGA+/1.6C2D/3G/Vista|Ultrabase
W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
T43 1875-DLU: 14.1"XGA/1.7PM-740/1G/XP (Old)
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