OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

[ajkula66]

The supreme court HAS deemed laws to be unconstitutional in the past.

But this time around they decided not to hear the Texas case so it's officially game over.

I wasn't expecting a different outcome but am somewhat surprised that only Thomas and Alito were willing to hear it.

Now everyone knows where they stand. God help us all.

[cadillacmike68]

The supreme court HAS deemed laws to be unconstitutional in the past.

But this time around they decided not to hear the Texas case so it's officially game over.

I wasn't expecting a different outcome but am somewhat surprised that only Thomas and Alito were willing to hear it.

Now everyone knows where they stand. God help us all.

Yeah, I keep telling my imbecilic relatives to "be careful about what you wish for, because you might get it". When they start complaining of higher taxes or, fuel prices, more lost jobs, I will remind them of that.

[cadillacmike68]

And its now out / confirmed that hunter's been under investigation for YEARS. And all sleepy creepy corrupt in china's front, side and rear pockets joe can say is "I'm proud of my son".

Yeah, proud of all the criminal and treasonous stuff they've all been up to for decades.

I'm not sure he will make it to inauguration day. He should concede now.

And some 45% of the moronic populace who voted for biden had NO IDEA of hunter's criminal activities before the election and 10% would have changed their votes had they known.

Nice.....

[RealBlackStuff]

You are talking about Biden's child, not Joe Biden himself.
And have you noticed how quiet it has become around Trump's children?
Abusing his presidential powers, he has suppressed any negative news about them and let's also not forget his daughter's despicable and corrupt hubbie Jared Kushner!
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/615169/

[dr_st]

And have you noticed how quiet it has become around Trump's children?
Abusing his presidential powers, he has suppressed any negative news about them

That's a load of rubbish. The POTUS has absolutely no power and no ability to suppress any news. He has exactly zero control over the media.

Given how hostile most media has been towards this particular POTUS - if there hasn't been any meaningful negative publications about his children - it is the most compelling evidence that there likely isn't anything bad to say.

[TPFanatic]

I don't care about Hunter. OTOH, the little Trumps and Kushner may has name be forgotten have helped run this country to the ground.

[ajkula66]

I don't care about Hunter. OTOH, the little Trumps and Kushner may has name be forgotten have helped run this country to the ground.

I, for one, would hate to have any of my tax dollars wasted on a Hunter Biden investigation/gutless hearings/Benghazi vol. 2 nonsense. Nothing will become of any of that.

His father's thuggish behaviour in Ukraine made me nauseous, though. Sadly, we're likely to see more of that in the years to come in various parts of the world. Neocons are licking their chops.

Kushner's presumed influence on Trump's decisions has bothered me deeply from day one. Then again, most of the Trump's cabinet/personnel picks over the past 3.5 years left me shaking my head. That's called bad management in my book, plain and simple.

A great - and in many respects unique - opportunity wasted.

Essential liberties stolen by government overreach, and most people just laying on their backs like whipped dogs ready to wet themselves from fear. Disgusting.

Economy trashed. Forget the vastly overpriced stock market and look at the gold, which gained ~30% over the past ~10 months, even with the recent drop in its price accounted for.

https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts ... -per-ounce

We've got bigger fish to fry than Hunter Biden.

[RealBlackStuff]

And it's official, the Electoral College has confirmed Joe Biden with 306 votes (232 for DJT).

Just wait for the slew of court cases that await Trump after the 20th of January 2021.
(Probably way more than the 60-odd cases, that his lackeys lost for him.)
To save everyone lots of time and money, treat him the same as Al Capone, they seem to have a lot in common, especially tax fraud!

Now who stole the election?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFqzvGqkL8A

Bye, bye...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gG6BJSX4jw

[BillMorrow]

FWIW..
https://populist.press/watch-120-second ... sin-judge/

including, but not limited to, the supreme court..
intimidation works and has worked on john roberts..

[BillMorrow]

And it's official, the Electoral College has confirmed Joe Biden with 306 votes (232 for DJT).

Just wait for the slew of court cases that await Trump after the 20th of January 2021.
(Probably way more than the 60-odd cases, that his lackeys lost for him.)
To save everyone lots of time and money, treat him the same as Al Capone, they seem to have a lot in common, especially tax fraud!

Now who stole the election?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFqzvGqkL8A

Bye, bye...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gG6BJSX4jw

so sorry but NOT OFFICIAL until congress meets on jan 6th..

[Ibthink]

so sorry but NOT OFFICIAL until congress meets on jan 6th..

Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell disagrees.

[ajkula66]

so sorry but NOT OFFICIAL until congress meets on jan 6th..

Bill,

Have you ever been in a serious car crash ? Like a head-on collision ?

I have.

There's that nanosecond when you realize that the crash is imminent and brace yourself for it, both physically and mentally.

That's where we are now. Enter the survival mode, which has different meaning(s) and shape(s) for every single one of us.

Nothing much will change on January 6th.

Deciding where one goes from this point is what's next on the list, at least in my case.

[BillMorrow]

so sorry but NOT OFFICIAL until congress meets on jan 6th..

Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell disagrees.

the turtle is a swamp creature..
he DOES know the senate rules and can bend them to his will..
never ask him about HIS and his wifes ties and business dealings with china...

it is not over until congress votes to accept the electoral college votes..
from all the evidence of voter fraud i hope the republican senate won't accept..
then the election goes to the house where each state has ONE VOTE..
been there before..
the dems are threatening to take names and get even with republicans..
is that how it is supposed to be..?
courts scared of rioters and looters..? so they hide..?
it is how republican rome went to hell and eventually failed..
i'm not ready for any dictatorship..

[BillMorrow]

so sorry but NOT OFFICIAL until congress meets on jan 6th..

Bill,

Have you ever been in a serious car crash ? Like a head-on collision ?

I have.

There's that nanosecond when you realize that the crash is imminent and brace yourself for it, both physically and mentally.

That's where we are now. Enter the survival mode, which has different meaning(s) and shape(s) for every single one of us.

Nothing much will change on January 6th.

Deciding where one goes from this point is what's next on the list, at least in my case.

no george.. i have always been lucky.. i WILL ask my wife, who HAS been in a head on crash and survived the drunken black person with no assets or insurance..
(which brings up the thought that maybe he now HAS assets i could go after!)
i DO recall she said she did not see it coming at all.. it was in I95 and the guy crossed 100+ feet of wet dirt to get my wife..
fortunately she is irish, born and raised in derry during the troubles, and is TOUGH..

a biden admin has already sold out to china but where are the dems talking about THAT..?
nooo, they are still fulminating about a non-existent trump russia connection..

have a nice christmas george..

[ajkula66]

fortunately she is irish, born and raised in derry during the troubles, and is TOUGH..

Luck of the Irish for sure...applicable to ones born and raised in Northern Ireland as well from what I can tell...

have a nice christmas george..

Thank you kind sir, and the same to you.

[cadillacmike68]

Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell disagrees.

the turtle is a swamp creature..
he DOES know the senate rules and can bend them to his will..
never ask him about HIS and his wifes ties and business dealings with china...

it is not over until congress votes to accept the electoral college votes..
from all the evidence of voter fraud i hope the republican senate won't accept..
then the election goes to the house where each state has ONE VOTE..
been there before..
the dems are threatening to take names and get even with republicans..
is that how it is supposed to be..?
courts scared of rioters and looters..? so they hide..?
it is how republican rome went to hell and eventually failed..
i'm not ready for any dictatorship..

Right there with you Bill.

Merry Christmas to you, George, et, al..

[TPFanatic]

They are OK with rioters and looters so long as it happens away from their mansions.

[ajkula66]

Merry Christmas to you, George, et, al..

And the same to you, good sir...

They are OK with rioters and looters so long as it happens away from their mansions.

I hope that people will eventually realize that "backing the blue" is a horrible concept...we are on our own.

[BillMorrow]

an insightful commentary:
https://www.westernjournal.com/bob-ehrl ... ever-sent/

or, here it is, below and which sort of encapsulates a LOT of the anti-trump argumens presented here and most every place else in the world, today..

By Bob Ehrlich
Published December 18, 2020 at 4:07pm

On Monday, I sent the following message out on my Twitter and Parler accounts:

Recall media assurance: “Nothing there” on Hunter. Recall media prediction: Trump could not produce vaccine in 2020. Recall media prediction of November 3rd “Blue Wave.” Recall media assurance that two-state solution had to predate Middle East peace. Our uncurious media BREEDS cynicism.

No new ground was broken here. I even violated at least the spirit of my usual rule: “Don’t complain about things you cannot control.”

And then a most insightful reply was received. It read: “Whatever. The good news is Trump will be gone.”

Wow. A nine-word response that encapsulates the worldview and the singular concern of the NeverTrumpers.

The terse response served to remind me (and us) how approximately 80 million anti-Trump Americans have viewed the last four years — and specifically how they interpret and process tangible evidence of Election Day shenanigans.

To boot, it reflected how completely onboard the haters are with respect to any person — issue — thing that might possibly damage Donald J. Trump.

Never mind that “Whatever” is short-sighted; never mind that ignoring evidence of voter irregularities because the result was the desired one is inherently dangerous and a threat to our democracy; and never mind that if it worked this time, it could happen again — for the other side. Just. Never. Mind.

The original draft of my tweet was noteworthy for how much I had eclipsed the 240-character limit. You see, only a word count limit could stop me from listing the variety of offenses against journalism committed by the mainstream media over the last five years.

Off the top of my head, think of the Trump “dirty dossier” story, the Don Jr. met with a Russian spy story, the Putin helped Trump rig the voting machines in 2016 story, the Trump aides had regular contact with Russian agents story, the Mike Flynn setup, and so on. That a three-year, $35 million special counsel investigation failed to corroborate even one of these or dozens of similar CNN headlines was no big deal.

Indeed, for the NeverTrumpers, there was a huge upside. It read: Whatever. The good news is Trump will (soon) be gone.

But Trump/Russia collusion was not the only phony narrative given legs over the past five years.

Recall the allegation that the president had removed the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s bust from the Oval Office; that he was suffering from mental illness; that he had told Michael Cohen to lie to federal investigators; that Don Jr. had obtained stolen Wikileaks material prior to public release; that special counsel Robert Mueller had issued a subpoena to Deutsch Bank regarding the president; that Russia had hacked into the U.S. power grid; and that the CIA had been forced to remove an agent from its Moscow office because Trump could not be trusted with sensitive information.

All such items were incorrect, of course, but the attitude was (you guessed it): Whatever. The good news is Trump will (soon) be gone.

Note that these Trump-inspired journalistic hit jobs were acts of commission — where the media endeavored to spin people and/or events into nefarious plotlines aimed at Trump Inc. In contrast, the Hunter/Joe Biden (non)story was an act of quiet omission — as in, “Nothing to see here”; “This story has been discredited”; and my personal favorite, “It’s all Russian disinformation.”

Still, whether active or passive, the common denominator toward both sins is striking: Whatever. The good news is … (you know the rest).

And so the last four years were marked with endless “Trump is inept” — “Trump is crazy” — “Trump is corrupt” storylines on one side and — literally nothing on the other. Joe Biden did not campaign. He rarely left his basement. And when he did — as during the waning days of the campaign — he had to face existential questions such as, “What flavor ice cream did you order today?”

For context, it is important to recall that all Republican presidential candidates have suffered similar fates from a hostile media. Recall Sen. Harry Reid’s bottom-line reply once his well-publicized claim that 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney had failed to pay taxes was shown to be false: “Romney didn’t win, did he?”

No surprise here; the media tilts 95 percent left on its best day. And so much of the coverage directed against Ronald Reagan, both Bushes, Bob Dole, John McCain and Romney was along the lines of, “We don’t like this guy’s ideas — so we’re going to hurt him.”

The treatment afforded to Trump has been more severe — akin to, “This guy is counterfeit — undeserving of high office — corrupt and insane — and so we will throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.”

In other words, “Whatever. The good news is at least Trump will be gone.”

[BillMorrow]

and finally, a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a much better new year, to all who wrote in this thread, on my wall, i admire and respect all y'all..

[dr_st]

Merry Christmas, Bill and everyone.

[RealBlackStuff]

Nollaig Shona agus Athbhliain faoi Mhaise Daoibh.
Happy/Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all!

[pkiff]

Wishing everyone here a Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a healthy and safe year ahead.

We had a light snowfall on Christmas morning in Toronto that momentarily covered over the slushy grey of the concrete city with a soft layer of white. Looking out the window as the snow gently fell, I was even able to muster a few moments of appreciation for the beauty still left in our world, and even a few fleeting thoughts of hope in our futures. I hope you all are able to do the same over the holiday break.

[rkawakami]

So, as I type this, the US Capitol building is being stormed by Trump protesters. Guns have been drawn on the House floor by police in response to attempts to break in.

This is the result of the lies from Trump and amplified by his kiss-@ss senators who have stirred up the pot.

ref: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics ... index.html

[ajkula66]

So, as I type this, the US Capitol building is being stormed by Trump protesters. Guns have been drawn on the House floor by police in response to attempts to break in.

This is the result of the lies from Trump and amplified by his kiss-@ss senators who have stirred up the pot.

ref: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics ... index.html

I would venture a guess that there's a lot of "implants" within "Trump protesters". That's the way the system(s) work worldwide.

With that being said, Trump's handling of the entire situation is beyond pathetic. Not that I'm surprised by that for a split second.

[rkawakami]

I would venture a guess that there's a lot of "implants" within "Trump protesters". That's the way the system(s) work worldwide.

If you mean that there's something akin to CIA operatives that are implanted into revolutions to stir up trouble, I reject that premise.

Trump is sitting back watching the show. Pence has issued what I would consider a presidential-level statement urging the protesters to cease and desist. Is it because he's in the center of all the action? I don't know but at least he has taken steps to defuse the situation.

[Ibthink]

This would be the right moment for Pence to activate section 4 of the 25th amendment. Trump is clearly unable to fulfill his duties as president.

[ajkula66]

I would venture a guess that there's a lot of "implants" within "Trump protesters". That's the way the system(s) work worldwide.

If you mean that there's something akin to CIA operatives that are implanted into revolutions to stir up trouble, I reject that premise.

That's perfectly fine by me. My personal experiences have taught me differently. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Trump is sitting back watching the show. Pence has issued what I would consider a presidential-level statement urging the protesters to cease and desist. Is it because he's in the center of all the action? I don't know but at least he has taken steps to defuse the situation.

I never liked Pence and never trusted him as far as I could throw him. Not that it makes a difference right now, not one bit.

From where I stand, Pence's political career is finished no matter what position he takes. And Trump himself is beyond done.

The GOP itself may very well be done. That remains to be seen.

It's not the news that everyone is watching that's important, it's the stuff that goes on behind the scenes while no one is paying attention...

[rkawakami]

If you think that the Democrats are smart enough or have the balls to implant instigators within the MAGA crowd, I have a bridge to sell you . If you are saying that the antifa crowd is behind it, then maybe I can buy that theory.

As far as your personal history and knowing a little bit about your background, yes I know that the USA has dabbled (euphemism for interfered) with many of the world's political institutions in the name of "democracy".

With respect to Pence, I'm with you, I think he's toast going forward. In fact, I think that when all is said and done, everybody who's been tied to the Trump Train is going to regret it in the future. Will this be the downfall of the GOP? Don't think so. It may slightly change the party's platform but I don't see it going away. What I do see is the development of a third major political party. How long it takes to become a significant part of the country's makeup, I can't predict.

[ajkula66]

If you think that the Democrats are smart enough or have the balls to implant instigators within the MAGA crowd, I have a bridge to sell you .

Not the Democrats. The powers that have zero political affiliation.

If you are saying that the antifa crowd is behind it, then maybe I can buy that theory.

That's a part of it for sure. But they are not self-propelled.,

In fact, I think that when all is said and done, everybody who's been tied to the Trump Train is going to regret it in the future. Will this be the downfall of the GOP? Don't think so. It may slightly change the party's platform but I don't see it going away. What I do see is the development of a third major political party. How long it takes to become a significant part of the country's makeup, I can't predict.

Well, I'd say that you're onto something here.

70M+ voted for Trump this time around. There's a significant portion of them that will not support the "conventional" GOP in any shape or form. But with Trump being thrown to the dustbin of the history, who'll lead them ? Not the likes of Romney, that's for sure. My fear is that most of the crowd becomes apolitical, which is the worst possible outcome in a country that's ruled by a Uniparty.

In other news, all that Dems need is to do is turn Texas blue and this country won't see a Republican President for at least a generation. Nominate a swamp creature like Niki Haley on the GOP side in 2024 and that goal shall be accomplished.

With all of that being said, we have bigger - much bigger - troubles brewing in the background.