T410 fan change-heat paste what and how

[T410]

I need to change the fan in my T410, or think I do anyway...its not running anymore but might be just clogged and jammed. Anyway i pulled the fan out of a parts 410 and just need to about heat paste because I've never used it before. What kind, will any kind do, how much to use, anything special I need to know applying if I have to install the new fan

[TPFanatic]

i like arctic brand silver 5, mx4,mx6 all good

[axur-delmeria]

If your T410 has nVidia graphics, you may need a thermal pad (for the GPU) in case the old one gets torn while removing the heatsink.

[RealBlackStuff]

How to: http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appmeth ... d_v1.1.pdf
A good paste e.g. Noctua NT-H1.

[T410]

If your T410 has nVidia graphics, you may need a thermal pad (for the GPU) in case the old one gets torn while removing the heatsink.

I'm fairly ignorant about such things. I run Linux Mint and it tells me

~$ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
tty: N/A
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8


Which I think means I am not running nVidia. I think. But I don't know about the machine I took the fan out of. I do know there is only one copper arm from the GPU to heat sink, while some have 2.

[axur-delmeria]

You can run 'lspci' on a terminal windows to check if there's an nVidia GPU or not.

[T410]

I don't see it:

-ThinkPad-T410:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev 06)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation QM57 Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06)
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
0d:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 01)
0d:00.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5U2xx (R5U230 / R5U231 / R5U241) [Memory Stick Host Controller] (rev 01)
0d:00.3 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 PCIe IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 01)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02)
ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core i3/5/7 Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core i3/5/7 Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core i3/5/7 Processor Reserved (rev 02)

[T410]

How to: http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appmeth ... d_v1.1.pdf
A good paste e.g. Noctua NT-H1.

are there good and bad pastes? Since I'll probably use it once or twice in my remaining life, I'd prefer to go with the cheapest viable option. Looks like that one is about twice the cost of some others ($14 vs 6 or 7)

[RealBlackStuff]

Your MTM (in the BIOS or on the sticker at the laptop-bottom) should tell you if you have nVidia or not.
Depending where you look, paste prices are much lower than what you come up with!
US prices are also better than EU prices...

[T410]

Nothing on the label and I can't get into BIOS because if I shut down I'll get a fan error and it may not start again.

But I think I may have found it using lshw command, but you tell me

*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation

[axur-delmeria]

Then it doesn't have nVidia graphics. You don't have to worry about it. Most T410's only had Intel HD graphics.

You don't need the thermal pad then.

BTW, did you lubricate the fan axle? My dad's X220 gave a Fan Error the other day, and oiling the fan got rid of the error.

[T410]

Then it doesn't have nVidia graphics. You don't have to worry about it. Most T410's only had Intel HD graphics.

You don't need the thermal pad then.

BTW, did you lubricate the fan axle? My dad's X220 gave a Fan Error the other day, and oiling the fan got rid of the error.

I haven't even opened the dysfunctional laptop yet, but I'll check it out when I do. I'm hoping its just filthy and stuck. However, looking at the parts fan I have here I have no idea how I'd lube it.

[axur-delmeria]

I haven't even opened the dysfunctional laptop yet, but I'll check it out when I do. I'm hoping its just filthy and stuck. However, looking at the parts fan I have here I have no idea how I'd lube it.

In some designs, there are small screws that hold the fan and heatsink together. Once you remove those screws, you can separate the fan unit from the heatsink. On the Thinkpads I've owned (mostly X series), the fan hub can be separated from the motor by gently pulling at it. From there you can put a drop of light oil on either the fan axle, or on the bushings on the motor itself. I use Singer sewing machine oil, but other forum members mentioned automatic transmission fluid.

Oh, one more thing: some heatsinks have some adhesive tape that covers the small gap between the edge of the fan unit and the cooling fins. I generally use aluminum foil tape to replace that, but there might be better options though not easily obtainable.

[T410]

I haven't even opened the dysfunctional laptop yet, but I'll check it out when I do. I'm hoping its just filthy and stuck. However, looking at the parts fan I have here I have no idea how I'd lube it.

In some designs, there are small screws that hold the fan and heatsink together. Once you remove those screws, you can separate the fan unit from the heatsink. On the Thinkpads I've owned (mostly X series), the fan hub can be separated from the motor by gently pulling at it. From there you can put a drop of light oil on either the fan axle, or on the bushings on the motor itself. I use Singer sewing machine oil, but other forum members mentioned automatic transmission fluid.

Oh, one more thing: some heatsinks have some adhesive tape that covers the small gap between the edge of the fan unit and the cooling fins. I generally use aluminum foil tape to replace that, but there might be better options though not easily obtainable.

There doesn't seem to be any need to remove the existing foil tape. Assuming its identical, I'm just going to replace the entire assembly if cleaning the problem fan doesn't work.