T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

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T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

#1 Post by Rose » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:42 am

Lenovo support is at my home right now and changing the fan in my T420s. The old fan has 4 wires coming out of it while the new one comes with a more common 3 wires. Does anyone know what the 4th wire does?

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Re: T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

#2 Post by rkawakami » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:46 am

Looks like the fourth pin is for speed control. Here's a document from Intel on the matter: http://www.formfactors.org/developer/sp ... M_Spec.pdf
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Re: T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

#3 Post by mikemex » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:58 am

Yes, it's for pulse modulation and is about removing the brushless controller from the motor and puting it into the motherboard. Pulse modulation essentially means controlling speed by controlling the rate at which poles are switched. This is in sharp contrast from dumb speed control designs that use a resistor for current limitation.
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Re: T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

#4 Post by Rose » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Ok, so essentially there are different fan assemblies for the T420s, some with the pulse modulation controller on them and some without.

If it matters anything for anyone, I got my fan exchanged and this one with a different design, is a lot less disturbing compared to the old one. Current one has only 3 wires.
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Re: T420s fan - 4 pins. What is the 4th pin for?

#5 Post by mikemex » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:46 pm

Which means, you got a dumb one as a replacement for the pulse modulator in the motherboard. Seems to me like there is a flaw in the motherboard's design.
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