Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

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Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

#1 Post by sysiphus » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:23 pm

Hi there,

I've noticed that IBM's refurb site lists, on occasion, some Nvidia-powered T61s for sale. Occasionally, they get some SXGA+ models in, which are rare enough to make me stop and consider buying, given that this is an avenue for a very nice physical condition 4:3 T61 with warranty coverage. Any opinion on if these machines are any more/less likely to be good/bad/fixed than any other Nvidia T61? I realize that all 4:3 T61s were produced before the official GPU fix build date (8/08), but my thought was that if anybody had the parts/ability to provide reliable T61s at this point, it would be IBM...is there any logic to this, or just stupid wishful thinking on my part?

(I miss having an SXGA+ 14" Thinkpad, and am looking for a way to justify one :P )

Thanks for any input!
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Re: Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

#2 Post by Cigarguy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:06 pm

If they are providing a warranty and for the right price, it might be worth a shot. It's a better shot than Ebay.

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#3 Post by sysiphus » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:27 pm

Cigarguy wrote:If they are providing a warranty and for the right price, it might be worth a shot. It's a better shot than Ebay.
Yep, 3-month warranty with extension to 12-month available, plus 7-day no-questions-asked return policy. They just updated their site with a ton of T61s, and even a T43(!)
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#4 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:44 pm

Just went there and saw the T43...cheaper then some "seller refurbished" ones on eBay... :P

Do bear in mind that IBM will not repair the machine within the warranty period - they will replace it altogether.

If you've seen something that has tickled your fancy...go for it.

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Re: Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

#5 Post by miro_gt » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:47 pm

sysiphus wrote:
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(I miss having an SXGA+ 14" Thinkpad, and am looking for a way to justify one :P )
...
go for it :D

I'm surely loving mine ...
T61: 14.1" 1400x1050, T9500 @ 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM CL4, nVidia 140m @ 600/925 MHz, Samsung 830 256GB, DVD-rec, 5300agn, FP, BT, 6-cell, clean XP Pro
T61: 14.1"w 1280x800, T9500 @ 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM CL4, Intel X3100, Samsung 830 256GB, DVD-rec, 4965agn, 4-cell, clean XP Pro

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Re: Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

#6 Post by sysiphus » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:02 pm

Thanks for the input...worst case it can go back, and the number of chances for warrantied SXGA+ machines is likely diminishing quickly at this point...

(and thanks for the note on warranty replacement, George...at very least hopefully I'll get something high-res if a replacement is necessary, even if it's not the same model)
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Re: Nvidia T61s from IBM Refubished...better, worse, just silly?

#7 Post by TuuS » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:05 am

I purchased several of them and thought I was getting a great deal as a stockholder, but when I got my 08/08 T61p from them with a 1yr warranty extension, it had at least 4-5" of play in the hinges. I was thrilled to get an 08/08 date so figured it was a simple matter of getting the warranty to replace the hinges... but no... they refused. Not only would they not replace them, they wouldn't even send me the hinges so I could replace them, the only option I had was to replace the machine with no assurance of getting an 08/08 to replace it. I eventually got them to send me another 08/08, but it too had bad hinges. In the end I got so tired of dealing with them that I packed up both T61p units and 3 T500 units and shipped them all back. I would have been willing to replace the hinges at my own expense, but then what happens if something else goes bad, lets say my power jack fails, instead of installing a new $10 part they'll send me another laptop, probably with an older gpu and I'd lose the new hinges I installed in it, not to mention if the replacement ended up having some screen blemishes or whatever.

Bottom line is, if you only want a working computer and don't really care about details, then that's all you will get, but if you tend to get attached to your computer and don't want it replaced if it can be easily fixed, then consider their refurb warranty to be worth slightly less then the paper it's written on.

As for getting a good GPU, that is very unlikely. They don't even replace them when a board is refurbished, and they definitely don't replace the boards when a laptop is refurbished, they trash the laptop if it needs something that major.

I think you'd be far better buying one in our forum where you're buying a specific computer, one that is accurately described, not a mystery box that you either take or leave after inspecting. Perhaps other members here have had good experiences with ibm refurbs, I have not.

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#8 Post by emtee3511 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:40 am

@TuuS -- thanks for the very good information -- things I wouldn't have thought of, but will if considering an IBM Refurb in the future :thumbs-UP:
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