T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

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T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#1 Post by Vonfeffer » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:23 pm

Hi,
I know the T420 has a Sata II bandwidth on its PCIe slot where I installed the Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD but should the Sequencial reading and writing speed be so low? It´s reaching 262.6MB/s on reading and 179.3MB/s on writing... I did a windows 7 clean install on it. Is this what I should expect?

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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#2 Post by mikemex » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:15 pm

It certainly doesn't seem bad at all...
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#3 Post by Cigarguy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:41 pm

That's about right for SATA II speeds.

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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#4 Post by jayton4 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:30 am

Both your read speed and write speed are dead on with where they are supposed to be. The Marvell 88SS9174 controller is a slower at writing, and you would see these same write speeds if you had it connected to a SATA III.
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#5 Post by Vonfeffer » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:34 pm

Thanks for the support guys!
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#6 Post by JPH » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:51 am

Vonfeffer wrote:Hi,
I know the T420 has a Sata II bandwidth on its PCIe slot where I installed the Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD but should the Sequencial reading and writing speed be so low? It´s reaching 262.6MB/s on reading and 179.3MB/s on writing... I did a windows 7 clean install on it. Is this what I should expect?

Thanks
So with SATA III mSATA SSD's we are not getting the 500MBps or so per the specs? So does that mean the T420 and X220 series are throttled by SATAII on both the PCIe and the main SATA ports?
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#7 Post by jayton4 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:19 am

JPH wrote:So with SATA III mSATA SSD's we are not getting the 500MBps or so per the specs? So does that mean the T420 and X220 series are throttled by SATAII on both the PCIe and the main SATA ports?
No, the main SATA ports get the full SATA III power for the T420 and later.
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#8 Post by JPH » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:53 am

Ok thanks. So just to sum up: main HDD is full SATA 6Gbps and the rest SATA 3Gbps. Fair enough, so no difference if we get a SATAII as opposed to a SATAIII mSATA drive in the mini PCIe slot then.
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#9 Post by jayton4 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:57 am

JPH wrote: so no difference if we get a SATAII as opposed to a SATAIII mSATA drive in the mini PCIe slot then.
I wouldn't necessarily go that far. In my experience, a SATA III drive running at SATA II speeds is still faster with the random reads than a SATA II drive.
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Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 mSATA 256GB SSD w/ microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520-series 7mm 180GB SSD, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA SSD, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a few classics in storage

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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#10 Post by ZaZ » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:29 am

There won't be much of a practical difference unless you're putting a heavy load on the controller, which typical notebook usage does not do.
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Re: T420 Crucial m4 mSata 128GB SSD

#11 Post by jayton4 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:20 pm

ZaZ wrote:There won't be much of a practical difference unless you're putting a heavy load on the controller, which typical notebook usage does not do.
Agreed. It is one of those things where it may not be a noticeable difference, but it is a measurable difference. Benchmarking applications certainly do not qualify as typical usage.
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Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 mSATA 256GB SSD w/ microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520-series 7mm 180GB SSD, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA SSD, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a few classics in storage

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