Anyone received their 15" T43p?

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Doltan · #1 Post by **Doltan** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:48 am

Have anyone received their 15" versions of T43p?

Or if not, what is the estimated delivery date?

Last I checked with IBM, before they started shipping out 14" versions, was in July. Not sure what's the status now (my local IBM is still checking). And if some have started shipping, then I'm going to see if I can exert some pressure to speed it up

fefland · #2 Post by **fefland** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:20 am

I sent an email to my sales rep asking where mine was two days ago, with no reply. I am considering cancelling my order and waiting to reorder when they are readily available. I ordered mine back on March 7. I have tried to be patient. What's funny is I ordered a case and 1GB strip as well.. I have had those for about 4 weeks now.

Not looking forward to arranging returns for those.

fefland · #3 Post by **fefland** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:12 pm

Got a response from my sales rep at IBM as to delay. I didn't get a response until I requested that they comp me a 6 cell battery for waiting (Want 6 cell for everyday plugged in use). Got a quick response of NO on that one. Told that they are offering no compensation of any kind, which is interesting since some have said they had power adapter "thrown in" on their recent order. But I digress. Here is the snippet about the projected wait still to come:

Thank you for your email Mr. Figueroa. The T43 systems are still on a huge back order. None have shipped as yet, this may continued upwards of June. I understand that this is a great inconvenience to you and all of our customers that are waiting for these systems. ...

If it wasn't for the EPP discount, my order would have already been cancelled. I may still cancel just so I don't have to think about when I will get invoiced, when might it arrive, Has it shiiped yet, etc. Sorry for the rant.

Doltan · #4 Post by **Doltan** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:48 am

Same as you, I almost cancelled my order 2 wks back for a Dell i9300. Still sticking to it so far......

Well, maybe some "good" news. Was asking around, and a local retailer mentioned that he has both a 14" and 15" T43p arriving mid May. Hopefully it means that the 15" are almost ready to start shipping.

Btw, what model did you order? I ordered a 2668-H3A.

fefland · #5 Post by **fefland** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:30 pm

I ordered the 2668H2U. Hopefully mid-may is a reality.

chbone · #6 Post by **chbone** » Sun May 01, 2005 11:56 am

My estimate date is May 31. I ordered at April 19.

Doltan · #7 Post by **Doltan** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:34 pm

My estimate date is May 31. I ordered at April 19.

Thats surprising! I thought the T43 models are all shipping out nicely? Hope you get it sooner than that.

#8 Post by **K. Eng** » Sun May 01, 2005 10:06 pm

I think you are perfectly justified in ranting. June?!

I would be pulling my hair out if I had to wait that long.

Anyone who needs a ThinkPad right away should just buy a T42p and be done with it. The T43 series is only marginally faster and has slightly worse battery life. Given that the T43 doesn't even implement SATA or the Intel High Definition Audio, the T43 simply has very few feature advantages to recommend it.

fefland wrote:
Thank you for your email Mr. Figueroa. The T43 systems are still on a huge back order. None have shipped as yet, this may continued upwards of June. I understand that this is a great inconvenience to you and all of our customers that are waiting for these systems. ...
...
Sorry for the rant.

Aramitz · #9 Post by **Aramitz** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:30 am

The T43 series is only marginally faster and has slightly worse battery life.

............and a lot heater

sb3d · #10 Post by **sb3d** » Mon May 02, 2005 1:54 pm

Order went in 3/28, have no idea when it will get here.

fefland · #11 Post by **fefland** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:55 pm

Still waiting, yet returned my extra RAM. Actually had to get a special exception to return since they sent the RAM ~5 weeks ago, it was past 30 day review period. Returning RAM since concensus is that 2GB is overkill. I will wait and see if I really need it first. What's funny is, they are sending me return labels for the case I bought as well (got it 5 weeks ago also) in case I am not satisfied with the thinkpad and have to return it. The return labels are good for 30 days as well. If the Thinkpad does not come in May, I will have to return the case, just to re-order it when the Thinkpad comes. That way if for some reason I have to return the thinkpad I could return the case as well. If I had to do it all over again, I would tell my sales representative not to send anything until the laptop was available. Customer Service was friendly and I did not have to argue to get return labels so that is good, but having to send an item back just to reorder the same thing again so that I can have a new "review" period is knid of crazy. Oh well, hopefully the thinkpad will arrive in May and I will have no issues and keep it. That way I won't have to worry about the case issue either.

Doltan · #12 Post by **Doltan** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:38 am

Just checked my status online today, it shows my shipping date to be 12th May

Also called them to check that out, but they told me that they are transferring the production plant in China (wonder how much this has to do with the Lenovo deal), and China is currently on holiday till 6th May for their labor day break. Hence, they cannot confirm if that's a firm date.

Wonder if mine will be the 1st batch from this new production center. Gets me kinda worried abt the quality (since I am working in manufacturing too)

fefland · #13 Post by **fefland** » Tue May 03, 2005 12:14 pm

Hopefully they finished a batch before moving plant and that yours was one of them. If none had been made yet, production won't start until after plant is moved. I am still hoping that mine ships this month. I don't really need it in a hurry, I just don't like waiting. In addition, hopefully quality does not suffer after move. They are really moving fast to switch over to Lenonvo. When I called into sales, they answered as Lenovo. I had to stop and think for a moment. Well the upside is that if quality is effected, we have 30 days to return it.

Leeper · #14 Post by **Leeper** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:10 pm

Probably does not help much but my 14" T43p showed up last week.

fefland · #15 Post by **fefland** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:14 pm

I am guessing that most still waiting are waiting for the 15" models. I thought about changing to 14" model but I really like the 15inch UXGA screen. That is what I have on my current A21p. Have read good things on flexview as well.

danny_isr · #16 Post by **danny_isr** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:14 pm

Leeper wrote:Probably does not help much but my 14" T43p showed up last week.

i had to ask , hows the fan there , does it stop ?

Leeper · #17 Post by **Leeper** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:17 pm

truth is I don't hear the fan that much. I have not pushed it too hard yet but my X40 fan kicks on more than the T43p.

Doltan · #18 Post by **Doltan** » Wed May 04, 2005 10:30 am

When I called into sales, they answered as Lenovo.

lol, that's fast. Wonder if I might have said "Sorry, wrong number"

chbone · #19 Post by **chbone** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:27 am

Here is information I got today. When I checked it, it is gone.

Dear customer,

Notebook /2668H4U/ just became available and it is ready to ship. Here is a direct link to this product:

http://www.euclidcomputers.com/frameset ... p++2668H4U

Let us know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Euclid Computers
http://www.euclidcomputers.com
877-EUCLID1 (877-382-5431)

This is a one-time notification requested by you. Your email address was removed from our database right after this message was sent.

#20 Post by **RonS** » Thu May 05, 2005 10:09 am

fefland wrote:I am guessing that most still waiting are waiting for the 15" models. I thought about changing to 14" model but I really like the 15inch UXGA screen. That is what I have on my current A21p. Have read good things on flexview as well.

I still think the A21p was my favorite Thinkpads of all time, especially for the old days when we used floppies. I've been around the world with my A21p, and it's still rock solid.

But the T-series Flexview is sooooo much better.

brainpicker · #21 Post by **brainpicker** » Thu May 05, 2005 10:58 am

I'd been receiving regular e-mail updates on the status of my 15" T43p for the past 45 days. They'd been very good about this, though FIRM that nothing could be done to speed it up or to compensate us for the long wait. The last message I received said it would ship by May 24th. Then earlier this week I checked my account and it said my order was to ship on May 10th. Great. Just for the heck of it I checked this morning because I wanted to make sure I added the 'protection plan" and THE ORDER DON'T EXIST ANYWHERE and I am freaking out! Yes, I check if it shipped already and it didn't show there either. I fired off an e-mail to my sales rep and until I get an "I'm sorry for the mistake" reply I'm really nervous about it. Not only do I fear getting put back to the end of the line, but my educational site now lists the price for the same model as nearly $900 more than what I bought it for! I don't want to jump the gun but if there is a problem here do I have any recourse? I've kept all my correspondence with them so that might help. I realy don't feel comfortable about my situation right now.

Yak

Leon · #22 Post by **Leon** » Thu May 05, 2005 11:31 am

as long as you have confirmation of your original order, I wouldn't worry...

fefland · #23 Post by **fefland** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:19 pm

That's pretty good that you receive regular emails, I receive nothing. Is that something that the sales rep configures? I check online order status and it always just says "in process". I have no idea as to when mine may ship. I wish I had at least a virtual date that kept floating. That way when the date stopped changing it might be on its way.

brainpicker · #24 Post by **brainpicker** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:25 pm

OK, I just received an e-mail back from my sales rep. He said because of the Lenovo deal the warehouse has been closed since last Wednesday. Nothing has shipped. They plan to re-open it tonight and resume shipping tomorrow. Therefore, everyone's ship date has been pushed back about 9-10 days. He now expects mine will ship in about 2 weeks.

Gee golly whiz, I might just be one of those lucky few who get the 1st T43p's off the new assembly line in China! If so, I hope I at least get a low numbered "commemorative" serial number so I can auction it off at Christie's some day, 'cause I'm not at all confident that anything coming from a new deal with a new company, and a new factory in a new country, is going to be up to the standards I've come to expect. Of course I'm begging them to surprise me, and I WANT them to succeed. Otherwise I wouldn't have ordered one.

Yeah I know... I get 30-days to decide... but that's not the point. Plus, not everything is evident within 30-days. If that were the case who'd need long warranties? The smallest of changes can result in the same look and feel, but also in a significant decrease in useable life span. I'm used to a well cared for laptop from IBM still performing well beyond the time it's components have become outdated, and I'd like that to continue. My mother-in-law is using a laptop built in 1994 because it still functions as it did when I bought it, and that's all she needs to do e-mail!

The competition (Dell, HP) must be salivating. Think about it. If individuals like us are anxious about the quality & service we're getting ordering one personal laptop, and mostly because we WANT it and not NEED it, how do you think big corp. IT buyers are feeling? They are either switching vendors or waiting to see how things turn out before placing sizeable orders. At least that's what the smart ones are doing. Either way the competition wins.

So far, I can't think of one thing that's come out of this deal that's been to the benefit of the customer. Maybe, just maybe, they'll prove me wrong. I'd love that.

Yak

Orbitz · #25 Post by **Orbitz** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:36 pm

I guess 2 weeks is better then "sometime after the 25th". I actually find it kind of amazing that a company this size would allow anything to voluntarily interrupt delivery of their product for 10 days to 2 weeks...there has to be customers that just couldn't or wouldn't wait it out and have gone to another brand even if just to try it out. In today's world...getting a quoted 20 day (that is work days...so basically a month) delivery time for a computer just seems very excessive.

GoEatFood · #26 Post by **GoEatFood** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:45 pm

I hope that goes for all systems...I might get my FVU sooner that I thought...

fefland · #27 Post by **fefland** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:52 pm

If I had to guess, I would say that there has to be customers who have already moved on. I agree with brainpicker:

... I'm not at all confident that anything coming from a new deal with a new company, and a new factory in a new country, is going to be up to the standards I've come to expect.
...

I have the same concerns. Sure there is the 30 day return. That is not much of a consolation considering some of will have waited over 60 days, and possibly 90 days by the time we actually see it.

I had to reutrn peripherals because otherwise there will be no return on those, since the laptop is so delayed. Unless customers get a great deal, I would think that they would start to shop other vendors.

GoEatFood · #28 Post by **GoEatFood** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:04 pm

yeah, that's the only thing keeping me from canceling my order is the EDU discount I got...and after calling to see if I could get some type of "extra" for my wait. which if they actually did suspend shipping because of the switch over I believe they should supply some type of "extra" for people that ordered before the switch over from IBM -> lenovo. either way, the wait for the machine even made me consider getting a apple. which I was totally against because of a lack of some programs I use and I didn't want to learn the OS.

fefland · #29 Post by **fefland** » Thu May 05, 2005 3:23 pm

I tried requesting an "extra" and was told everyone is waiting and that they are offering nothing. I would think that they would want to make sure everyone waits, keep them happy, so that they would recommend the machines to others. I don't think that Lenovo is on top of things like that. I may reconsider Apple as well. It was on the top of the list as well, but the EPP price was to good on the T43p. So I wait...

Doltan · #30 Post by **Doltan** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:11 am

Pretty worried about the startup quality of the new manufacturing plant

we dun have a 30day return policy here, so can only hope for the best.

I would think agree that a lot of potential customers would have already moved to other brands instead of waiting thru. If not for the pricing that I managed to get, guess I would have switched too!

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