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T43 with X600

#1 Post by a_d_y_a » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:02 am

I hear the T43 is going to get the x600. I did a quick search

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... l%26sa%3DG


http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... l%26sa%3DG

and there are tons more. They all say the t43 will have option of x300 and x600. the only reason they say that x600 is currently absent is because the ibm management felt that a t43 with x600 (128 megs btw! ) would challenge the t43p series and hence they wanted to start out with the x300. [censored]!

something similar to how the 9600 came much after the 9000 in the t42 series. any predictions on when x600 might hit us?


Does this mean if I buy a T43 x300 then i can fark my way into a x600 t43 when they release it...

then t43 would be my choice over the t42
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#2 Post by aamadi » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:46 am

I just bought a T43 2687EJU that comes with a ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB. Isn't this an x600? Granted it is on back order, and won't ship for another month, but it is available for order. Do you know how good this graphics card is for gaming? The article you have a link to says that the new 3D games will work with this card, which is cool.

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#3 Post by a_d_y_a » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:51 am

isnt that a professional card which would then make ur lappy a t43p
:)


what i am waiting for is

x300---->x600

for that to happen we need the p series to do

v3200--->v5000

then the world would make sense

right now there is too much comparison with a old top end 9600 and a new low end x300


i say wait for the x600, ibm will surely put a quiter fan in it as well
lcd manufacturers are improving daily

so a refresh of the t43 series would be cool

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#4 Post by rickslate » Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:58 pm

Do you think these would only be offered with the insane 1600x1200 screens? I know the impact on game software would be dramatic but out of curiosity, would this have any impact on the performance of apps like PhotoShop and Macromedia Flash?

Edit: I meant to ask, would they be offered with an SXGA+ screen as well or is this not likely.
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#5 Post by a_d_y_a » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:14 pm

rickslate wrote:Do you think these would only be offered with the insane 1600x1200 screens? I know the impact on game software would be dramatic but out of curiosity, would this have any impact on the performance of apps like PhotoShop and Macromedia Flash?
if you mean video cards then I am pretty sure that the V5000 will be available with 1600x1200 screen .

Will they affect Flash and Photoshop --> I donot know the effect of GPU speed.

BUT memory size i mean GPU memory or RAM increase will definitely improve speed in these applications.

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#6 Post by K. Eng » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:34 pm

No. The GPU's hardware acceleration speeds up 3D stuff (think polygons and geometry) but not 2D stuff.
a_d_y_a wrote: Will they affect Flash and Photoshop --> I donot know the effect of GPU speed.

BUT memory size i mean GPU memory or RAM increase will definitely improve speed in these applications.
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#7 Post by davidlg16 » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:41 pm

aamadi wrote:I just bought a T43 2687EJU that comes with a ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB. Isn't this an x600? Granted it is on back order, and won't ship for another month, but it is available for order. Do you know how good this graphics card is for gaming? The article you have a link to says that the new 3D games will work with this card, which is cool.
i never realized they have regular t43s with X600, is this only on 15" w/ flexviews?
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#8 Post by danny_isr » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:10 pm

who said they have regular with x600 ?
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#9 Post by davidlg16 » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:16 pm

2687EJU

maybe they left out the "p"...
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#10 Post by aamadi » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:16 pm

your posts are getting me confused. What is the ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB comparable to, an x300 or x600. I thought it was like an x600. If not, is it more like the x300?

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#11 Post by aamadi » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:20 pm

I didn't leave out a "p." I did a build your own thinkpad express t43 for the edu page. I my order is says 2687EJU with no p. Maybe i'm looking in the worng place though. I'm new and don't know a lot about the thinkpad series.

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#12 Post by K. Eng » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:31 pm

It's about darn time the X600 made its way into the T43. The X300 with on-chip memory (which I presume IBM is using in order to save motherboard space) has a 64-bit memory interface! The X600 has a full 128-bit memory interface.

http://www.ati.com/products/mobilityrad ... specs.html
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#13 Post by kanate » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:13 pm

aamadi wrote:I didn't leave out a "p." I did a build your own thinkpad express t43 for the edu page. I my order is says 2687EJU with no p. Maybe i'm looking in the worng place though. I'm new and don't know a lot about the thinkpad series.
2687EJU is actually a T43P Express model CTO
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/ ... p/_2687eju

I ordered one, too, since middle of March and don't see any sign that it will ship anytime soon.

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#14 Post by davidlg16 » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:58 pm

aamadi wrote:I didn't leave out a "p." I did a build your own thinkpad express t43 for the edu page. I my order is says 2687EJU with no p. Maybe i'm looking in the worng place though. I'm new and don't know a lot about the thinkpad series.
I meant IBM might of left out the "p" in some of their descriptions of this model in certain places
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#15 Post by danny_isr » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:37 am

K. Eng wrote:It's about darn time the X600 made its way into the T43. The X300 with on-chip memory (which I presume IBM is using in order to save motherboard space) has a 64-bit memory interface! The X600 has a full 128-bit memory interface.

http://www.ati.com/products/mobilityrad ... specs.html
http://www.ati.com/products/mobilityrad ... specs.html

who said it did ?
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#16 Post by Kenn » Sun May 01, 2005 4:47 pm

K. Eng wrote:No. The GPU's hardware acceleration speeds up 3D stuff (think polygons and geometry) but not 2D stuff.
a_d_y_a wrote: Will they affect Flash and Photoshop --> I donot know the effect of GPU speed.

BUT memory size i mean GPU memory or RAM increase will definitely improve speed in these applications.
If the core and memory clock on the X600 are faster than the X300 (which they certainly are), then apples to apples, 2D rendering should be sped up as well. Of course, this won't have any affect on the actual CPU processing times of Flash animations or photoshop filters, but the rendering portion (drawing blitting, etc. especially on high-resolution screens) should be somewhat faster.
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#17 Post by K. Eng » Sun May 01, 2005 6:08 pm

I don't think anyone can really tell the difference between 2D drawing anymore. Past a certain point the higher clock doesn't make a difference. Its like 500 Frames per Second against 700 Frames per Second.
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