T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

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T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#1 Post by Tim82 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:00 pm

I cleaned a bit my T60's old keyboard. I removed carefully the keycaps from the keyboard, after that I used compressed air can and toothbrush (gently) to get rid of the hair and dust, what was here. I didn't use any water or other liquid.

When I reassembled the keyboard, I found that the following keys are not working: 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, ö, ü, End. (I have a Hungarian layout, so "ö" and "ü", which are nation-specific characters, might be "0" and "-".)

Mechanically all of these keys work like they were good as new. Simply Windows doesn't seem to acknowledge I pressed these keys, but when I press, I didn't feel any resistance or obstacle, something that would indicate there's any pollution or dirt which may cause the problem. (I use Windows 7 Pro 32 bit.) So I disassembled again, inspected the mechanics of these keys, carefully blew a little air... but it ain't helped. What can I do?

I have another keyboard, but this keyboard is a bit more comfortable to me. FRU P/N is 42T3220.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

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I put the keyboard to my Z61p. The "faulty" keys are working, I don't know, what was the problem, but the keyboard seems to be OK now.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:29 am

Maybe you had switched NumLock to ON?
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#3 Post by DaKKS » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:46 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Maybe you had switched NumLock to ON?
No, the keys in question are not the numlocked ones. At least not with a hungarian layout.

This is a simulated hungarian keyboard:

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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#4 Post by Tim82 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:40 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Maybe you had switched NumLock to ON?
No, that was my first guess. In that case, the 5 and 6 keys wouldn't work too (but they indeed worked). And NumLock doesn't explain the malfunction of the End button too.

Maybe some dust caused temporary problems within the mechanic or the sensors of the keyboard. It'll remain an X-File...

When I took the keyboard in the Z61p, it worked without any hiccup.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#5 Post by cadillacmike68 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:35 am

You might have gotten something inside the hole where the keys go in. Try using vacuum instead of compressed air to lift out what might be inside.

You would all probably barf if you saw the keyboards we have to use over here...

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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#6 Post by Tim82 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:44 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:You might have gotten something inside the hole where the keys go in. Try using vacuum instead of compressed air to lift out what might be inside.
That's a good idea, thank you!

When I put back the keyboard to my T60, suddenly the same keys aren't working, so I'm exactly here where I started the thread. Can be the connector cable the problem's source? Maybe there's something damaged inside? In the Z61p there is much more room for the cable than the T60. (I try to figure why worked those [censored] keys in the Z61p and why not in the T60.)
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#7 Post by DaKKS » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:51 pm

Tim82 wrote: That's a good idea, thank you!

When I put back the keyboard to my T60, suddenly the same keys aren't working, so I'm exactly here where I started the thread. Can be the connector cable the problem's source? Maybe there's something damaged inside? In the Z61p there is much more room for the cable than the T60. (I try to figure why worked those *****Expletives removed by Moderator***** keys in the Z61p and why not in the T60.)

Grab a can of compressed air and clean out the connectors (Mobo and keyboard). Sounds a bit similar to the keyboard issue with my old macbook. Also, make sure the connector is correctly and firmly seated.

However, don't rule the cable itself. I've seen all kinds of crazy issues when similar flat cables were damaged.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#8 Post by Tim82 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:42 pm

I'm surprised a bit about the moderation, in my point of view there was nothing "expletive", but another country, another customs, so if I sounded too harsh, apologies.

DaKKS: my T60 works flawlessly with another keyboard, so I would rule out the port on the mobo. I'll clean the connector of the faulty keyboard, thanks for the advice.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#9 Post by DaKKS » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:15 pm

Tim82 wrote:I'm surprised a bit about the moderation, in my point of view there was nothing "expletive", but another country, another customs, so if I sounded too harsh, apologies.

DaKKS: my T60 works flawlessly with another keyboard, so I would rule out the port on the mobo. I'll clean the connector of the faulty keyboard, thanks for the advice.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#10 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:15 am

So what does the offending word(s) rhyme with? :?

The cable - those are very thin lines there and they are easily damaged, and if it's not fully seated, keys will not work.
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Re: T60 keyboard keys - some aren't working after cleaning

#11 Post by Tim82 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:42 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:So what does the offending word(s) rhyme with? :?

The cable - those are very thin lines there and they are easily damaged, and if it's not fully seated, keys will not work.
It was "d-a-m-n-e-d". :)

Sadly, I was not able to restore the keys to fully functioning. I'll use the keyboard as a donor. Mechanics, keycaps seem still perfectly good.
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