Thinkpad 240 --> 320MB

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azX32 · #1 Post by **azX32** » Fri May 06, 2005 12:58 pm

I've read here and elsewhere about which 256 memory modules work in a TP240 to bring it to 320MB total system memory. I took a chance on one module that I'd not seen mentioned specifically, but which met the general specs that were recommended.

Now that the 256 module is installed, my 240 "seems" to be booting faster than it was with the 192MB RAM I previously had, and is as stable as it was before with the 98SE OS I'm running. However, the system still registers only 192MB instead of 320MB. Is the full 320MB actually being used with this new module installed - even though it doesn't register as such - or is it possible that only 128MB of the 256MB module is being utilized?

kage · #2 Post by **kage** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:07 pm

You need an SODIMM that is low density, as in 16 ram chips
instead of 8.

Regular density ones will give the result that you are
getting. I personally have a 16 chip SODIMM SDRAM
in my 240 and it works great (the boot time is much
worse though as theres much more ram to POST through)

Hope this helps,
Kei

kage · #3 Post by **kage** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:07 pm

Also, my system detects 320mb of ram (I can see the number
at boot up)

azX32 · #4 Post by **azX32** » Thu May 26, 2005 1:09 pm

Thanks for the response. I returned the non-compliant 256MB module and replaced it with the Samsung M464S3323CN0-L1L. It works perfectly and is fully recognized.

BTW, if anyone is interested in buying a Crucial 128MB module (66MHz) for the 240, send me an email to thinkpad AT sus2 DOT net.

qianjizhao · #5 Post by **qianjizhao** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:39 pm

hi
i got 320M on my 240, I have kingmax TingBGA 256M memory
I got it from ebay.co.uk as 20GBP
http://img287.echo.cx/img287/2118/11ux.jpg
http://img265.echo.cx/img265/7127/12ps.jpg

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azX32 · #6 Post by **azX32** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:45 pm

What OS are you running on your 240?

2609-41G ... is that a 500MHz Celeron?

qianjizhao · #7 Post by **qianjizhao** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:48 pm

no,mine is 400Mhz
i got win98 and win2k on my 240, win98 use for play some old games, but it always show blue screen for me

so i got win2k as well

azX32 · #8 Post by **azX32** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:51 pm

What OS?

(edit: Sorry, I typed that before I read your OS reply.)

azX32 · #9 Post by **azX32** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:55 pm

I have 98SE ... runs fine except for frequent blue screens with a USB 2.0 cardbus adapter I use on occasion, and also frequently will not wake from suspend.

Has anyone tried XP on the 240? Seems like it might be workable with 320MB.

qianjizhao · #10 Post by **qianjizhao** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:57 pm

currently i got win98 and win2k
i was try winxp with 192M memory, it is too slow
if we take that 64M memory out of mother and exchange with 128M(some 240z have 128M on motherboard, so 240 should be OK), so we can get total 128+256=384M, that will be better for run winxp

but for 320M or 192M
I think the best os is win2k

qianjizhao · #11 Post by **qianjizhao** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:00 am

even it is possible to run winxp with 128M(i was try before)

and i got 40G HD, and aslo have build in 802.11g mini pci card for my 240
you can see here
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11687

or my own space(maybe you can't understand chinese, but you can understand those pictures, click to enlarge see 1600*1400 pictures)
http://spaces.msn.com/members/qianjizhao/

azX32 · #12 Post by **azX32** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:05 am

Thanks, I've been thinking of installing W2K on it. I've been hesitant because it took so [censored] long to get 98SE tweaked just right, I kind of hated to trash it without being sure W2K would run well on the 240.

How did your W2K install go? Did it require much tweaking?

qianjizhao · #13 Post by **qianjizhao** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:14 am

it is very easy to install win2k
most drivers are buildin with win2k

verktyg · #14 Post by **verktyg** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:16 am

qianjizhao wrote:currently i got win98 and win2k
i was try winxp with 192M memory, it is too slow
if we take that 64M memory out of mother and exchange with 128M(some 240z have 128M on motherboard, so 240 should be OK), so we can get total 128+256=384M, that will be better for run winxp

but for 320M or 192M
I think the best os is win2k

I have a matched pair of PIII 500 240x TPs with 192MB of RAM. One has Win98SE and the other XP SP2. They both run about the same. A little extra memory wouldn't hurt.

qianjizhao · #15 Post by **qianjizhao** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:49 am

verktyg wrote:
qianjizhao wrote:currently i got win98 and win2k
i was try winxp with 192M memory, it is too slow
if we take that 64M memory out of mother and exchange with 128M(some 240z have 128M on motherboard, so 240 should be OK), so we can get total 128+256=384M, that will be better for run winxp

but for 320M or 192M
I think the best os is win2k
I have a matched pair of PIII 500 240x TPs with 192MB of RAM. One has Win98SE and the other XP SP2. They both run about the same. A little extra memory wouldn't hurt.

hi
yours is 240x, the max memory is 192(if you can find a 192M memory then you can get 256M) with PIII 500Mhz

But 240's cpu are between Celeron 300 ans 400Mhz, it only have 128k L2, Piii have 256k L2. and that Piii cpu's FSB is 100Mhz, 240's FSB is 66Mhz. so 240x is running faster than 240

for the memory you can try open a pdf file and a word file, also play music at background at same time, you will know why you need a larger memory.
and i said 240 can run winxp with 128M memory, you can try boot your 240x on win98 and winxp with 192M and 128M, you will know why i said that.

qianjizhao · #16 Post by **qianjizhao** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:56 am

and 192M to 320M is not a little extra memory
is increase 66.7%

cmdrdata · #17 Post by **cmdrdata** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:19 pm

Qianji, are you saying that 240X CANNOT be upgraded to 320MB like you do with your 240?

qianjizhao · #18 Post by **qianjizhao** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:31 pm

yes, you are right
you can't get 320M on your 240x
because 240's mother board chip is 440BX, and yours is 440MX(i think it is model, but i can make sure it is NOT the same as 240), and the chip support max memory is 256M.
So the max memory is 256M on your 240x.
but normally you can get ONLY 192M(64M+128M), but you can get chance upgrade to 256M, it is 2 way to do:
1, buy a 192M memory, you can get them in Japan(but i think it is too difficult for you), and they are very expensive
2, buy a 256M memory, 240x can use a part of those memory(192M), but i don't know which memory you need to buy, you need try each one.

verktyg · #19 Post by **verktyg** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:52 pm

This evening, I replaced the OEM 128MB SODIMM in my PIII 500 240x 2609-61U with a new Micron 256MB Low Density 16 chip SODIMM.

POST ran OK and the BIOS showed 255MB of memory which would be normal since it reports 192MB as 191MB.

It would boot to a command prompt but Win98SE wouldn't load even in Safe Mode. It hung at the logo screen.

Since this is a PC I carry in my car and use every day, I didn't want to mess with it so the 256MB SODIMM found a new home in my T20.

I may throw in another HDD and try it again later.

qianjizhao · #20 Post by **qianjizhao** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:15 pm

only few 256M memory can working with 240X or 240z
and only 192M of that 256M memory can be use.

my suggest is find a 192M memory on japanses ebay or yahoo auction

pianowizard · #21 Post by **pianowizard** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:30 pm

qianjizhao wrote:currently i got win98 and win2k
but for 320M or 192M
I think the best os is win2k

I am running XP Pro on my 240 with 192MB RAM and it's reasonably fast for surfing the internet.

qianjizhao · #22 Post by **qianjizhao** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:34 pm

pianowizard wrote:
qianjizhao wrote:currently i got win98 and win2k
but for 320M or 192M
I think the best os is win2k
I am running XP Pro on my 240 with 192MB RAM and it's reasonably fast for surfing the internet.

i was try that before
but i am a student, so usually i need run office on my 240, so win2k will faster than winxp
but just for surfing the internet, winxp is ok

PALADIN · #23 Post by **PALADIN** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:04 am

Hi Folks!

I have just purchased a TP240 C300 2609-21G and a TP240X PIII500.

Having read the posts in this forum I had to ask if anyone has tried Hypertec memory in there TP240?

It seems to be widely advertised as being used in IBM Thinkpads, but I do not see the 240 listed on their Web site. http://www.hypertec.co.uk

I am considering this 256MB SO-DIMM: 33L3069-HY
But I would like to findout how other users rate Hypertec memory?

Thanks

PALADIN

sloomy · #24 Post by **sloomy** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:47 am

Hi

Nice IBM 240/x/z Information summery here !

To complete these topic, can someone please explain ,

how to install any Microsoft Os in an IBM 240 Serie Notebook?

I have tried to install Windows Xp Prof. with an 2,5" to 3,5" adapter in my PC , but after the first reboot the OS is not recognized from IBM 240.

I know, that you can install it with an IBM Portable Drive Bay or again original IBM USB External Drivers but , is it also possible to install an OS without that parts ?

How should i do it, should the OS Cd be bootable ? Or can I also boot it through floppy ?

This process should also the same for an IBM Transnote. Isn't it ?

@quanji

How much does this Wireless Lan cost? Can you also find some for me ?
Thanks anyway for great photos and review of the how to build the wireles lan.

Can you please post some good chiníse and japanese sites about IBM 240, 240x and 240z ? Sites about overclocking and modding will be very welcome.

thanks for any advices and answers.

Cheers

sloomy

pianowizard · #25 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:15 pm

sloomy wrote:Hi
how to install any Microsoft Os in an IBM 240 Serie Notebook?

I too don't have any external CD drives for installing the OS, but do have the external floppy drive. This is the procedure I used to install Windows XP Pro on my TP240:

1) Start up the TP240 with a Windows 98 startup disk in the external floppy drive.

2) Format the HDD (mine is 6GB) using the FORMAT command on the Windows 98 startup disk.

3) Attach a parallel-port Iomega Zip drive to the TP240, and use the GUEST command downloadable from Iomega to install that drive.

4) On a seperate computer, copy the Windows XP Pro setup files from a CD to several Zip disks.

5) Use the Win98 command COPY to transfer all files from the Zip disks to the HDD.

6) Run Winxp setup from the HDD.

This is just how I did it. It's kind of slow because it involves a parallel-port Zip drive, but I was not in a hurry.

With a notebook-to-desktop HDD adaptor, you can instead copy the setup files from the CD drive of a desktop computer onto your TP240 HDD, put the HDD back into the 240, and then run the setup from there.

sloomy · #26 Post by **sloomy** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:51 am

Thanks for fast reply.

How can you install the dos driver of the ZIp Drive.

I will open a new topic for these question.

sloomy

pianowizard · #27 Post by **pianowizard** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:38 pm

sloomy wrote:Thanks for fast reply.
How can you install the dos driver of the ZIp Drive.
sloomy

So I assume that you have a parallel-port Zip drive. Go to www.iomega.com to download the installation files for DOS. These files should fit on one floppy disc. After booting up with the DOS/Win95/Win98 startup disc, replace that startup disc with the Iomega disc and type "GUEST" at the command prompt.

qianjizhao · #28 Post by **qianjizhao** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:26 pm

PALADIN wrote:Hi Folks!

I have just purchased a TP240 C300 2609-21G and a TP240X PIII500.

Having read the posts in this forum I had to ask if anyone has tried Hypertec memory in there TP240?

It seems to be widely advertised as being used in IBM Thinkpads, but I do not see the 240 listed on their Web site. http://www.hypertec.co.uk

I am considering this 256MB SO-DIMM: 33L3069-HY
But I would like to findout how other users rate Hypertec memory?

Thanks

PALADIN

i don't think you can use this onw
the only thing you need make sure is there are 16 memory chips on the memory(256M)

PALADIN · #29 Post by **PALADIN** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:09 am

Thanks for your quick reply, what about the Samsung module: M464S3323CN0-L1L, this one appears to be 16 chip.

qianjizhao · #30 Post by **qianjizhao** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:27 pm

PALADIN wrote:Thanks for your quick reply, what about the Samsung module: M464S3323CN0-L1L, this one appears to be 16 chip.

as i know
this one should be working with 240

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