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X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

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X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#1 Post by nikhilkodilkar » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:18 am

I love the X1C :)
I've been waiting for a 15" PC laptop that is really thin and has 8 GB ram.
But X1C would do even with 14" since I saw it yesterday and it seems wide enough.

But the space ?!
After installing all my Dev tools, images, etc.
I'm worried if I'm going to have any space left ! I so wished they had a model or SDD + HDD !!

So I need help on two things :
1.) What can one do to make X1 workable from a space perspective.
2.) What other model can come close to X1's thin form factor but is atleast 14" and has ample space.



P.S : I currently have a T510, but it's way too heavy and frankly X1C is just so beautiful, it justifies changing a laptop after 3 years.. :D

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#2 Post by ZaZ » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:54 pm

You could take a Windows disc to it for a clean install and leave off anything you don't want. Disabling System Restore and Rescue and Recovery usually frees up a good chunk of space. There's a 256GB option, though it is considerably more expensive. I believe Asus and Samsung make some 15" Ultrabooks, but have hefty price tags too.

You could look at the T430s. It's only about a pound heavier than the X1 Carbon, but would allow you to do a SSD + HDD.
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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#3 Post by pianowizard » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:47 pm

I never use Hibernation and so I always turn it off. For a computer with 8GB of RAM, turning off Hibernation would free up 8GB of SSD/HDD storage. Also, I always manually set the maximum and minimum virtual memories to be identical, and on nearly all computers I've used, I set these to be smaller than the automatic settings, allowing me to gain a little more storage space. Another thing you may want to consider is deleting the hidden partition AFTER burning a set of recovery discs. For the old Thinkpads I used to have, doing this would free up 4 - 6 GB. You may also want to check whether Windows has temporary system files (e.g. Windows installation files) that are safe to delete.

The thinnest and lightest 15.* inch laptops currently available are:

Samsung Series 9, 15.0" 1600x900, 3.51 lbs
Vizio CT15, 15.6" 1920x1080, 3.96 lbs

Two other fairly light 15.* inch laptops that aren't particularly thin but have 1080p resolution:

Panasonic Let's Note CF-B11, 15.6" 1920x1080, 4.18 lbs
Sony S Series 15, 15.5" 1920x1080, 4.42 lbs

After these, there are quite a few 15-inchers between ~4.6 and 4.99 lbs, by Asus, Dell, HP and Lenovo, but these are probably too heavy for you.

BTW, Apple's MacBook Pro with Retina has 15.4" 2880x1800 and weighs 4.46 lbs.
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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#4 Post by nikhilkodilkar » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:37 pm

Thanks Zaz & PianoWizard.

I'm going to check Asus. It's thin form factor is certainly attractive.
The UX52VS seems like an SSD+HDD that sounds promising.

Also the UX51VZ seems good - about 400GB free space - but quite pricey.. !

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#5 Post by pianowizard » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:01 am

nikhilkodilkar wrote:The UX52VS seems like an SSD+HDD that sounds promising.
If your 5.7-lb T510 is "way too heavy", you might still find the 4.84-lb UX52VS a bit too much.
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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#6 Post by nikhilkodilkar » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:05 pm

True. Also, I learned that the 52VS isn't touch :(

The odd thing is there is no detailed review I could find for it.
Or the price !

I also wrote down what I wanted to help me in narrowing the criteria :
  • Minimum 14"
    Windows 8
    Touchscreen
    RAM = 8GB
    Hard disk should have at-least 400 GB free to use
    SDD required. Hybrid (SDD+HDD) is fine too.
    Should be thin - no CD drive
See these aren't out of the world demands ! :lol:
Now only if a manufacturer makes a PC of this sort !!

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#7 Post by ducky2802 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:31 pm

If you wanted to step back a few generations, the T410s came with a multitouch display, 14", room for 2 hdds (with ultrabay swapped), and was pretty thin (back then).

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#8 Post by ChugokuOtaku » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:09 pm

You could consider high capacity high speed SDXC cards perhaps?
They're coming down quite a bit in price, and your Thinkpad would still be shockproof.

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#9 Post by microwave » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:24 pm

you can install half-size msata ssd after removing WWAN card. ( The little mofication is required to install msata ssd on mini pci express slot)

There are dual ssd ( x1 original ssd+ half size msata ssd ) on my x1 carbon.

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Re: X1 Carbon - 50GB free space is too little - howto increase ?

#10 Post by ChugokuOtaku » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:30 pm

microwave wrote:you can install half-size msata ssd after removing WWAN card. ( The little mofication is required to install msata ssd on mini pci express slot)

There are dual ssd ( x1 original ssd+ half size msata ssd ) on my x1 carbon.
Can you elaborate on what modification is required, and which half-sized mSATA SSD you used in your Carbon?

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