T420 Nvidia versus integrated

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T420 Nvidia versus integrated

#1 Post by Frotz » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:37 am

What's the graphics performance of a T420 with discrete Nvidia graphics versus one with Intel integrated graphics? I'm pondering buying a refurbished or used one because my T42 is getting long in the tooth and I would rather not have a T430 or T440.

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Re: T420 Nvidia versus integrated

#2 Post by wolfman » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:44 am

Welcome to the forum.

I have the T420 in my signature below with integrated only graphics (e.g., Intel HD 3000 graphics). The nVidia NVS 4200m graphics was an option on the T420 and leverages Optimus technology. It's approximately 20% faster than the integrated graphics.

From your other post, you mentioned you were going to install llnux on the machine as well. Take a look at bumblebee to support switching graphics. I tend to only buy laptops with integrated graphics as it's one less source of both heat and failure over the lifetime of the machine. I don't have a use case that required a discrete graphics chip. If you search benchmarks for the nVidia NVS 4200m and the Intel HD 3000 you'll be able to see the performance difference for your specific use case and decide if it's worth it - the 4200m is a low end card.

To me, honestly, I'd take a 1600x900 display with integrated graphics over a 1366x768 display with a discrete chip all day long... I think the display resolution is more important, so definitely consider getting the 1600x900 panel.

Hope that helps.
Thinkpad T420 | Core i-5 2520M | 16gb RAM | 120gb Intel 520 SSD + 750gb 7200 RPM | 6300 N | Ubuntu 12.04 x64
Desktop: AMD FX-8350 (8 cores) | 32gb ECC RAM | 240gb Intel 530 SSD + 1tb 7200 RPM | Ubuntu 14.04 x64 | HP ZR24w
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Re: T420 Nvidia versus integrated

#3 Post by jayton4 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:01 pm

Like wolfman said, just make sure you get the 1600x900 screen.

I have the Nvidia NVS 4200 on my T420s, and I like that I have it, but don't see it as an absolute necessity.

I do not like the Optimus mode, and prefer to use either one or the other. When I need performance, I switch to Nvidia graphics. When I need extended battery life or lower fan noise, I choose Intel. In addition to the approximate 20% GPU performance increase, when Nvidia-only is enabled the CPU benchmarks are higher than when Integrated-only is enabled. Offloading the graphics from the CPU/chipset really does help.
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T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 mSATA 256GB SSD w/ microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520-series 7mm 180GB SSD, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA SSD, Intel 6300 WiFi
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