X3 Carbon vs. T440s

[sjahanmi]

I'm debating on which 2 machines to get, the X1 Carbon Haswell refresh that's slated to arrive next month (codenamed X3 Carbon I think) or the T440s. If we put the 2 side by side, with the same exact specs (ie, 4th gen i7/ 8gigs ram/ 256 SSD), which one would be better in terms of overall performance, speed, reliability, durability, and battery life?

[RealBlackStuff]

Both these machines belong in a different forum each.
And FYI: both these machines are no longer considered to be Thinkpads on this forum!

[sjahanmi]

why are they not considered ThinkPads?

[yak]

why are they not considered ThinkPads?

The fans of the classic ThinkPads are really displeased with the changes Lenovo introduced in the T430 (and other *30 models), mainly the switch from the 7-row keyboard to 6-row chicklet keyboard. The fact that they removed the dedicated TrackPoint buttons in *40 doesn't help either.

If this is going to be your first ThinkPad this might not be a problem.

As you see, you've posted in "Classic ThinkPad Hardware" forum. Use the "Post-Classic ThinkPad Hardware" for talking about *30 and newer machines.

Either ThinkPad T430/T530 and later Series
or ThinkPad X1/X1C.

[sjahanmi]

Ahh now that's understandable. I get it. My first ThinkPad was a T43 and I do miss it a lot. I remember it had a hard time with youtube. I even upgraded its RAM with no avail. I turned it over to my dad and he sold it on ebay about 6 years ago. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of it now that I hear people having success replacing their hardrives with SSDs.