how common are the thinkpad in your country?

[aldimeola81]

Here in Italy, the country where I live, unfortunately, is a completely unknown.

I am a technician and I visit several clients per day, offices, shops, factories, schools, universities in more 'than ten years I have seen only 10 thinkpad, one is a Swiss multinational resort here in Italy, the thinkpad (before an t61 and now a t510 ) docked and closed is the director's pc connected with two external monitors, the other two I've seen in business studies, the rest of them had the mechanics to diagnose cars (t30, X61T)

here there is't a tendency to seek quality computer 'but it's just trying to earn by buying cheap products and selling them at the maximum price.

also companies that use at a professional level CAD rely on consumer products brands like hp, acer, asus, I've only seen 4 Workstation "Dell Vostro" in use by another customer who is concerned with mechanical engineering.

I personally have sold several thinkpad to friends, relatives and business customers, they were used models imported from abroad, everyone was very happy over the years and they are changing the old with the new thinkpad thinkpad, those who try hard to go back.

how are things in your country? you can see the thinkpad around? those who use them as formal allocation?

greetings

[dr_st]

(Israel) Very common, both in corporate environments, and among private persons who value reliability and quality of service, even if perceived.

[Medessec]

I've rarely seen Thinkpads in home or casual use. When I first started getting interested in Thinkpads in 2005-2007, I almost never saw a Thinkpad, except in the middle school... I think one of the teachers had one. And I was pretty psyched to see it.

However now that I'm in college, quite a few University classmates own them. Seems the Edge series is seen in the hands of English and other non-math/logic majors, where a lot of typing is in play. Many APCG(Applied Computer Graphics) majors own a high-performance T-series, I've even seen one with a W530. I've also seen an X201 Tablet, which he says he got from his dad.

At my dad's previous job with Siemens, they had quite a few Thinkpads, but I believe they were phasing them out and buying Dells by the time he left. His current employment, "SMUD"(Sacramento Municipal Utility District, sort of Sacramento's own Electric Utility) doesn't use Thinkpads now either. I think they also mostly use Dells, but I've seen a couple of his co-workers with Toshibas too.

At home, again... the Thinkpad is a very rare sight. My grandmother in Ohio owns an R61 widescreen, interestingly enough, and a neighbor of mine has a T40 that he got from a garage sale.

Three of my best friends, my sister, my dad, and several of my friends' parents own a Thinkpad, and my roommate Kevin has three Thinkpads, but this isn't really fair to the inquiry... because they bought them off my recommendation or by my interest rubbing off on them.

[ajkula66]

In my old neck of the woods ThinkPads are not common at all. That's why there's only a dozen or so members of this forum from over there.

Small country, high import taxes, atrocious unemployment rate. Not really a great market for ThinkPads.

Neighbouring countries - with one possible notable exception - are pretty much in the same or similar boat.

[kony]

Thinkpads (T series) are not very popular, I'm the only person I know who uses it at home. I've seen some in corporate places, but not many. However, the E series is extremely popular recently, it's like 1/3 of the people I know own Lenovo laptop.

[Temetka]

Being as I live in California, I see them quite often. Not as often as Dell's or HP's or Macbooks, but still rather often.

Typically I see them with individual people, whereas all my clients are Dell. mainly because they buy their servers and workstations from Dell, so why not the laptops. It's easier to put it all on one PO.

[brchan]

Thinkpads are somewhat common at my campus. Maybe about 15% of students have a thinkpad, of which 66% are mostly T430/T530 and T440/T540 models. The other 34% are mostly Edge. I have seen less than 8 people on the entire campus who have older models, though. 2 4:3 T61s, 1 X300, 1 W500, 2 X61, 1 x201T, and another iirc. Interestingly enough, I saw the business office have 2 X41T thinkpads setup at a standing desk . Other than that, most students use consumer laptops from HP, Apple, Dell, Asus among others. A lot of people I know also just buy their laptops based on looks, performance, or if its the latest model, not by build quality, durability, keyboard etc.

I use my T61 most days of the week, and will usually use my T23 on the weekends. People are amazed that I still use a 13 year old laptop and are even more stunned when they see how snappy it is on Linux .

[aldimeola81]

Thanks to everyone, can you add your country at the answer for faster reading? Bye

[kony]

Thanks to everyone, can you add your country at the answer for faster reading? Bye

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[aldimeola81]

Thanks to everyone, can you add your country at the answer for faster reading? Bye

You can see the location of a poster on the left.

you're absolutely right, the problem is that on tapatalk is not exposed, excuse me, I often read the forums from my smartphone lenovo p780.

I'm curious: in the places where the thinkpad are so common, you can buy them at a regular mall?

Here where I live you have to order them on the internet, otherwise it is impossible to see one.

in addition a workstation model costs twice as good monthly salary, so even from you?


on the other hand is full of cheap laptops lenovo inside the malls

I, however, am a faithful user lenovo: thinkpads as computers, lenovo P series as a telephone (although I had to order it directly from china and customize it by me)

I think that in some countries, Lenovo does not push their products properly, who knows 'why', for example, in Italy the telephony sector lenovo is not imported,although it produces models that undermine Samsung and Apple
(eg the Lenovo Vibe Z) perhaps as a matter of patents or licenses? boh.

Lately, however, I see that the lenovo consumer products has increased tenfold this year ; for the first time I installed a server, nas, and 12 desktop computers Lenovo, in the 15 years preceding 0 lenovo hardware.

Maybe in the future I will install 'new thinkpad, I would really like.

Although, with Windows 8, everything turns into garbage

[Puppy]

I have not seen ThinkPads in companies over here for last few years anymore. There are mostly HP and Dells (or Macs). I have no idea who actually buys the new T/X models, last ThinkPads widely used were T400/T500/X201. As for consumer models, IdeaPad B and Y series are popular.

E series does not have a good reputation either because of motherboard sudden death issue present in 30 models. Don't mention crappy displays and keyboard layout. Again, HP and Dell can provide better value (docking solution not changing with every new model etc.) than Lenovo.

This is different than 10 years ago when you could see ThinkPads almost everywhere in (rich) compaines. Among private persons, it was not so common to have ThinkPad because of limited availability and high prices. We are still poor country (salaries are below 1/3 compared to Germany) where everything is horribly overpriced (people living close to borders buys almost everything in Germany/Austria/Poland because it is usually cheaper and having better quality, especially food and clothes). You had to wait several weeks when a company ordered dozens of T/R/X series boxes to have one left for you as private customer. Acer, Asus, MSI were common brands for majority of people in that era.

[Neil]

Here are my observations in the Midsouth of the USA:

My brother is a network manager at a medium size industrial plant nearby and they used to use Gateway years ago, and Dell now for several recent years until present.

My biggest customer (I sell office supplies), is one of the areas largest industrial facilities (a steel mill) and ThinkPads are the only laptops I've ever seen when I'm in there offices.

I see ThinkPads here and there at other locations too, but they are nowhere near as common as Dell, and other consumer level makes. Lenovo laptops are on the shelf in some of the shops like Best Buy and Office Depot, but the choice of models is very limited, since we are nowhere near a big city.

[theterminator93]

My first exposure to ThinkPads was when I was in high school (early 2000s); the school had a couple carts of them we got to use for research/projects. I bought one off-lease during that time, then bought my T61p a little over a year after graduating. Only one person I know personally also has a TP (technically inclined). Most people I know who have technical backgrounds hold the TP line in high esteem.

I work as an outsourced tech for many schools and I don't see them very often though; most are HP, some Dell. One of the schools has received ~50 T60/T61/T400s as a corporate donation which I've been thrilled to work on though.

I may start trying to get these schools to start buying TPs instead of HPs.

[Norway Pad]

I live in Norway. The use of Thinkpad here seems to be mainly related to business use. My company (TINE, Norways biggest dairy/milk processing company) has used IBM / Lenovo for ages, and that's the reason I was introduced to Thinkpads in the first place. The college my wife works for uses Thinkpads too, and I have also seen some schools use them as student computers. So I have the impression that Lenovo and the Thinkpad covers a rather big part of the business/education segment here.

For the consumer market, the picture is different. Except from people I have sold Thinkpads to and people who got to keep their corporate laptop, I have met very few people who has a Thinkpad at home. And I have *never* heard about anyone who actually bought a brand new one. I would think the reason is the same as everywhere else: the price tag is simply too high for the average consumer. So most people buy cheaper consumer brand computers (Including consumer line Lenovos), while the random user who don't need the newest and most fancy equipment, might buy a 2-3 year old off-lease Thinkpad.

[aldimeola81]

I'm curious to know the situation in India and China, we have colleagues there?

[soldner]

very uncommon here in Indonesia. people are more attracted to Asus and Acer.
At campus, i saw lecturer using ThinkPad, mostly X61, and X220. Never saw students using real ThinkPad, mostly edge series.
I guess i'm the only one using T series and collecting ThinkPad in my campus.

[Guest]

Thanks, a friend of mine has gone in USA for holidays, travelling around for 3 weeks, never seen a thinkpad or anything lenovo branded.

[Tasurinchi]

Fairly common here in Switzerland, (although I see an increasing number of Dells)

[sir_synthsalot]

Pretty common in academia in Canada, more so with institutions, but you do see individuals with thinkpads as well.

If you're on holiday in North America you're probably not going to go to places where thinkpads are used the most.

[twistero]

Here in Shenzhen, China, ThinkPads (X240, T440, X1 Carbon, ThinkPad Yoga) are frequently on display in large electronics shops, among Lenovo IdeaPads, Samsung, Sony, Acer, etc. In electronic "malls" where each brand of computer have their own storefronts, there are IdeaPad shops (which often also sell ThinkPads) and ThinkPad shops (which do not sell IdeaPads) separate from each other.

It gets better. Imagine a typical floor on an office building with rooms along the walls and cubicles in the center. Replace each room and cubicle with individual shops that deal in various laptop parts, and you're correctly picturing a "mall" in Huaqiangbei. A cubicle may be dealing laptop keyboards, or LCD cables, or miniPCIe wireless cards, or laptop CPUs, or even ThinkPad clear plates. With a bit of effort you could probably pick up all the parts and assemble a complete ThinkPad on the spot without leaving the floor.

[Tasurinchi]

That place is call heaven

[Guest]

So, the thinkpad is well known in china..

[Guest]

That place is call heaven

"I am in agreement.. Pictures will be great
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[Qing Dao]

I live in Shanghai, and I would say that maybe 40% of the laptops I see Chinese using are from Lenovo, and most of those are Thinkpads.

Here in Shenzhen, China, ThinkPads (X240, T440, X1 Carbon, ThinkPad Yoga) are frequently on display in large electronics shops, among Lenovo IdeaPads, Samsung, Sony, Acer, etc. In electronic "malls" where each brand of computer have their own storefronts, there are IdeaPad shops (which often also sell ThinkPads) and ThinkPad shops (which do not sell IdeaPads) separate from each other.

It gets better. Imagine a typical floor on an office building with rooms along the walls and cubicles in the center. Replace each room and cubicle with individual shops that deal in various laptop parts, and you're correctly picturing a "mall" in Huaqiangbei. A cubicle may be dealing laptop keyboards, or LCD cables, or miniPCIe wireless cards, or laptop CPUs, or even ThinkPad clear plates. With a bit of effort you could probably pick up all the parts and assemble a complete ThinkPad on the spot without leaving the floor.

Similar, although worse, places that exist here in Shanghai are a complete ripoff and often full of used and really old stock.

[twistero]

Here in Shenzhen, China, ThinkPads (X240, T440, X1 Carbon, ThinkPad Yoga) are frequently on display in large electronics shops, among Lenovo IdeaPads, Samsung, Sony, Acer, etc. In electronic "malls" where each brand of computer have their own storefronts, there are IdeaPad shops (which often also sell ThinkPads) and ThinkPad shops (which do not sell IdeaPads) separate from each other.

It gets better. Imagine a typical floor on an office building with rooms along the walls and cubicles in the center. Replace each room and cubicle with individual shops that deal in various laptop parts, and you're correctly picturing a "mall" in Huaqiangbei. A cubicle may be dealing laptop keyboards, or LCD cables, or miniPCIe wireless cards, or laptop CPUs, or even ThinkPad clear plates. With a bit of effort you could probably pick up all the parts and assemble a complete ThinkPad on the spot without leaving the floor.

Similar, although worse, places that exist here in Shanghai are a complete ripoff and often full of used and really old stock.

I go into such places fully expecting everything to be used or old stock. We are talking about parts for laptop models that are discontinued for years, after all, and it's very obvious that many parts are stripped off used machines

[thinkpadgeek91]

MY employer runs only Thinkcentre's and Thinkpad's. My previous employer though I didn't work in the IT field there used only Thinkcentre's and Thinkpad's as well. I was introduced to Lenovo in college and owned a T410 while I got my networking degree. I now own a MBP and have a Thinkcentre as my personal work machine. I also have a T61 I just bought that should be here this week. I'm ready to start packing a Thinkpad again to work. I'm about ready to ditch my MacBook Pro and buy a T540p but my wife likes OSX too much.

[Khipata]

I am originally from Georgia, the country and thinkpads, mostly T42's are pretty common there in auto repair shops and mechanical workshops, connected to some kind of CNC mills. Newer models, like T500 and up are very popular among students and scientists. I alone sent over 20 various thinkpads there as gifts to family and relatives. My sister has X40, X61s, X61t, T60, T61 and T500. My cousin has T42, R61I and T500. W series are rare due to high price. As for Edge and Ideapads, they are not popular, in par with Dell and HP consumer laptops. Exception is Lenovo S10 netbook, which was very popular for some time. And of course, rich people and government officials use Macbooks, although some of them, technically inclined and informed, are fond of newer T series thinkpads, Panasonic Toughbooks and Getac rugged laptops along with Dell XFR.

As for vintage thinkpads, I do not know anyone who collects them. But I know some people who collect old Soviet (Russian) computers and calculators, along with ZX Spectrum Soviet clones

[jedisurfer1]

not as common as it used to be, my dad used to work for ibm and I saw them a lot more back in 1997-2008ish.

I don't see them that often now and I have an option of getting a free middle of the road Dell from work but I still spend my money on an old school thinkpad of x20 generation, 220 420 520 etc.

[Dekks]

relatively common, but due to price probably, the versions with such things as IPS, large screens, top end CPUs etc are not as common as in the states.

[CPC464]

In my country (Spain) "true" Thinkpads are really hard to see. I have really seldom the opportunity of seeing somebody using a Thinkpad here. Cheap Lenovos and Edges are a bit more common, but most people buy here cheap sub 500 € garbage, or shiny, expensive bitten-apple stuff. Once I saw somebody using a 14" T60 here in Spain and I was so surprised that I still remember that, after 6 years! After that, I saw a Thinkpad once on a train trip, and a pair of used T410 in a second-hand shop. Not much more...