One with an Nvidia chip and one with Intel grpahics.
Guess which ones die?

We weren't talking about Intel versus Nvidia, but about whether some of the D620/820 used G84/86-based Nvidia. This matters because only G84/86-based Nvidia GPUs were faulty. According to Dell's official specs, the Nvidia-equipped D620 used the Quadro NVS 110M, whereas the Nvidia-equipped D820 used either that or the Quadro NVS 120M. As you can see in the last table in Wikipedia's Nvidia Quadro page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro), both of these GPUs had G72 cores, not G84 or G86, so the D620 and D820 shouldn't be impacted by the Nvidia issue. The D630, D830, and the T61/61p Thinkpads were affected because they used the 135M and 140M, which had G86 cores.Temetka wrote:There were 2 versions of the D630.
One with an Nvidia chip and one with Intel grpahics.
You're correct, its a different chip. So what? They just never admitted to it being faulty. Hell, might not even be the same issue at all. AMD never admitted that the mobile HD5470 is a POS, never recalled any machines or cards. Yet they die left and right. I've had a [censored] of 7000 series die on me, far too many to be an accident or a statistical error margin.pianowizard wrote: We weren't talking about Intel versus Nvidia, but about whether some of the D620/820 used G84/86-based Nvidia. This matters because only G84/86-based Nvidia GPUs were faulty. According to Dell's official specs, the Nvidia-equipped D620 used the Quadro NVS 110M, whereas the Nvidia-equipped D820 used either that or the Quadro NVS 120M. As you can see in the last table in Wikipedia's Nvidia Quadro page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro), both of these GPUs had G72 cores, not G84 or G86, so the D620 and D820 shouldn't be impacted by the Nvidia issue. The D630, D830, and the T61/61p Thinkpads were affected because they used the 135M and 140M, which had G86 cores.
Fair enough.pianowizard wrote:We weren't talking about Intel versus Nvidia, but about whether some of the D620/820 used G84/86-based Nvidia. This matters because only G84/86-based Nvidia GPUs were faulty. According to Dell's official specs, the Nvidia-equipped D620 used the Quadro NVS 110M, whereas the Nvidia-equipped D820 used either that or the Quadro NVS 120M. As you can see in the last table in Wikipedia's Nvidia Quadro page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro), both of these GPUs had G72 cores, not G84 or G86, so the D620 and D820 shouldn't be impacted by the Nvidia issue. The D630, D830, and the T61/61p Thinkpads were affected because they used the 135M and 140M, which had G86 cores.Temetka wrote:There were 2 versions of the D630.
One with an Nvidia chip and one with Intel grpahics.

Keep in mind that the D430 allows a max of 2GB RAM, mine is running Debian very good and snappy (with a mSata SSD), but for Win7 2GB could be a little tight IMO (depending what you want to do of course...)Temetka wrote:I were to get a 3rd laptop I am pretty sure it would either be a D430 or an E4300

Why don't you want the E4200? It starts at 2.20 lbs, can take up to 5GB of RAM, has an impressive keyboard, and has the same screen res as the E4300. It's even powerful enough to make Vista feel snappy. The screen is awful, but becomes decent after carefully adjusting gamma and color balance.Temetka wrote:IF - and this is a big if - I were to get a 3rd laptop I am pretty sure it would either be a D430 or an E4300.

Aside from the tinny sound (which is very typical for laptops of this size BTW), none of these other things describe the E4200 that I had. I did hate the screen's low contrast and narrow viewing angles (which are also typical for similarly sized laptops), but noticed no flickers. I suspect you had a defective screen.automobus wrote:Its fan does not spin at quiet speed: fan is either off, or spinning and annoying....E4200 has second-place worst speaker of all mobile PCs I used: very tinny...E4200 screen is very worst LED-backlit screen I used. It flickered like hell...E4200 trackpad is not good, I guess just average; I hate almost all trackpads, even some which are called good by professional reviewers.
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