Lenovo’s Promise for a Cleaner, Safer PC

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#1 Post by **JaneL** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:22 pm

See http://news.lenovo.com/article_display. ... le_id=1934

brchan · #2 Post by **brchan** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:46 pm

Not a bad start. I can't think of other mainstream manufacters that don't include bloatware, though, the only brand new laptop I have ever bought was my W530

. Having a clean windows image with only the necessary drivers and security software would be a first. I think it would be even better if Lenovo allowed you to purchase a Windows laptop with only the required drivers installed and nothing else.

Sleepy664 · #3 Post by **Sleepy664** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:37 pm

First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.

On a new laptop I would accept a Lenovo System Update (in a more user friendly variant) preinstalled. Nothing else

Khipata · #4 Post by **Khipata** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:50 pm

Sleepy664 wrote:First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.

Same here. And I do this for ANY laptop for that matter

exTPfan · #5 Post by **exTPfan** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:46 am

Sleepy664 wrote:First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.

How do you do that without having to buy a new license?

waterloo · #6 Post by **waterloo** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:45 am

exTPfan wrote:
Sleepy664 wrote:First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.
How do you do that without having to buy a new license?

You can download W7 and W8 ISO off the net

Get the serial number from your host machine using software or look for it underneath the laptop

Done

lophiomys · #7 Post by **lophiomys** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:10 am

My paranoia torwards Lenovo has been proved to be justified now.

No matter to what Lenovo has now been forced to promise for their correction - under public pressure only.

Sleepy664 · #8 Post by **Sleepy664** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:55 pm

waterloo wrote:Get the serial number from your host machine using software or look for it underneath the laptop

Done

The only problem was that in my case Windows couldn't be activated online...but a quick phone call to automated activation system sorted it out in just a few minutes

sarbin · #9 Post by **sarbin** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:55 pm

Sleepy664 wrote:First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.

On a new laptop I would accept a Lenovo System Update (in a more user friendly variant) preinstalled. Nothing else

I'm curious... would you be willing to pay more for such a machine? If so, how much % more?

Sleepy664 · #10 Post by **Sleepy664** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:17 am

sarbin wrote:I'm curious... would you be willing to pay more for such a machine? If so, how much % more?

To be honest...as there is the option to download W7 ISO and use my product key, I'm willing to pay exactly 0 USD more. If there were no such option, let's make it 25 to 50 USD.

I understand what you meant by that question. Laptop manufacturers make money on this stuff and that makes the machine cheaper for the end user.

So I have another option – load the machine with as much malware, crapware and spyware as possible. I'll get a cheaper machine (maybe even for free with the hard drive loaded to the brim) and I'll make a clean install anyway.

On a more serious note – System Update could contain a lot of trialware to install if the user wishes. And maybe not only trialware. I think there are ways to make it unobtrusive and profitable at the same time.

Qing Dao · #11 Post by **Qing Dao** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:48 pm

sarbin wrote:
Sleepy664 wrote:First thing I do with every new PC is to format HDD, get rid of the recovery partition and install a new OS from scratch.

On a new laptop I would accept a Lenovo System Update (in a more user friendly variant) preinstalled. Nothing else
I'm curious... would you be willing to pay more for such a machine? If so, how much % more?

The only time I did something like that was when I got my Amazon kindle. It was an extra $20 or so to not have advertisements come up on it. But on that device there was absolutely no option to change that after purchase.

For a laptop, I don't know why anyone would pay more money to avoid just a few minutes of removing bloatware. My time isn't that valuable. Besides, I would much prefer a Microsoft OS be an additional option, not a forced "convenience" for the consumer. I've been able to buy two laptops with Linux installed from the factory, but it is rare to find this both available and cheaper than Windows.

It is easy to add up a couple bucks profit per laptop from all the bloatware they add, but it is extremely difficult to quantify the cost of annoying many customers.

Sleepy664 · #12 Post by **Sleepy664** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:57 pm

I can imagine buying software on some more modern version of System Update.

New software could be just a few clicks and a credit card number away. Complete hassle-free install. It would get Lenovo some money, maybe even more than bloatware. And it would be a nice selling point. But it probably isn't this simple...otherwise someone else would be doing it already...

#13 Post by **lead_org** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:38 pm

I would imagine that Lenovo can get more money, if they sell some higher end accessories like Apple does.

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