T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

T400/410/420 and T500/510/520 series specific matters only
Post Reply
Message
Author
Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

#1 Post by Wiking » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:32 am

Installed ultrabay with second HDD few days ago and since then, every time I power the machine on from sleep in win7 , intel rapid writes that it safe to remove now the drive.
I used ti put my T420 sleep every night instead of full power off and now I can't do this because I loose my second hdd until full restart.
Anybody had this issue and solved it ?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

#2 Post by Wiking » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:23 am

Anybody?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

brchan
ThinkPadder
ThinkPadder
Posts: 1326
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:43 am
Location: West Lafayette, Indiana

Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

#3 Post by brchan » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:50 am

Do you even need Intel rapid storage to see the drive? I didn't need the driver or program on my W530 and my HDD in the ultrabay had no problems after sleep. I would try removing the driver/program. I haven't seen any performance difference with it installed.
Current Thinkpads: W530 (functional classic keyboard mod), X301, T61, T60, T43, T23, 600X, 770
Other: mk5 Toughbook cf-19, mk1 Toughbook cf-53

Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

#4 Post by Wiking » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:38 am

I uninstalled intel rapid and now, device manager does the same. After coming back from sleep, it writes "safe to remove the drive" and disconnect it until I remove the ultra bay and put it in again.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

RealBlackStuff
Admin
Admin
Posts: 17508
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:17 am
Location: Mt. Cobb, PA USA
Contact:

Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:54 am

Why put your T420 to sleep at night? What if there is a long(er) power failure?
Switch it off!
Saves on energy cost and does not interfere anywhere with laptop functionality.
(Exceptions: A31p, T43p and T61p who all had dicey GPUs)
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)

Check out The Boardroom for Parts, Mods and Other Services.

Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

#6 Post by Wiking » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:01 am

Because it takes long to start work with it after full restart ( old hdd that waiting to be replaced). Also, an option to continue working from the place I left it plays.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

dr_st
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 6653
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:20 am

Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

#7 Post by dr_st » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:36 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Why put your T420 to sleep at night? What if there is a long(er) power failure?
What, like 2 weeks? :)
RealBlackStuff wrote:Saves on energy cost and does not interfere anywhere with laptop functionality.
The power consumption in sleep is totally negligible. Plus, it takes much longer to start up than to wake up from sleep.
RealBlackStuff wrote:(Exceptions: A31p, T43p and T61p who all had dicey GPUs)
I think sleep will do just the same "damage" as power off, seeing as the GPU will shut off and cool down just the same, and it is the thermal cycling that is quoted as the primary cause of accelerated failure.

Regarding the actual problem:

I would go to the device manager and go through all the devices in the path to the drive (probably the drive itself and the SATA port/controller), and see if there is a checkbox in power management settings saying that the computer can turn this device off to save power. If it is enabled, disabled it.
Current: X220 4291-4BG, T410 2537-R46, T60 1952-F76, T60 2007-QPG, T42 2373-F7G
Collectibles: T430s (IPS FHD + Classic Keyboard), X32 (IPS Screen)
Retired: X61 7673-V2V, A31p w/ Ultrabay Numpad
Past: Z61t 9440-A23, T60 2623-D3U, X32 2884-M5U

Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

#8 Post by Wiking » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:29 am

Looked everywhere in the device manager and then checked power manager. Hasn't find anything related.
I need to mention that it not happen every time.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Wiking
Sophomore Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:58 pm
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel

#9 Post by Wiking » Tue May 12, 2015 12:35 pm

Still have this problem. Very annoying and not healthy for ultra bay drive and HDD in it.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

cfds
Freshman Member
Posts: 96
Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:29 am
Location: Les Vosges, France

Re:

#10 Post by cfds » Thu May 14, 2015 2:00 am

Wiking wrote:Still have this problem. Very annoying and not healthy for ultra bay drive and HDD in it.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Well you are not the only one...on my T420 I am not using an Ultra bay drive/HDD but just the standard optical drive. The same thing, it gets deactivated while on battery power "safe to eject" and the only way to reactivate and use it is to restart the laptop while plugged in in the mains.
There is no box to thick in the Lenovo power manager. I have been trying different versions of the power manager without any luck...
I have given up as I cannot be asked to play around to find the right combination of drivers and power manager to get this solved. Lately seriously annoyed with the newer Lenovo products...
X1C-1, i5 3427U 1.8GHz, 8GB RAM, Sandisk mSATA 250GB SSD, Win 7 Pro 64bit
X220, i5 2520M 2.5GHz, 6GB RAM, Crutial mSATA 120GB SSD + 2nd internal Samsung 256GB SSD, Win 7 Pro 64bit
2013 MacBook Air 13" 250GB SSD/8GB Ram
T420 i5 2520M 2.5GHz, 8GB Ram, Samsung mSATA 256GB SSD + 500GB HDD

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “ThinkPad T400/410/420 and T500/510/520 Series”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests