Why do most people out of this forum hate IBM?

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Navck · #1 Post by **Navck** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:50 pm

They're very biased on their opinion
I've heard "OVERPRICED SELLOUT"
"TITANIUM JUNK"
"IT CANT ALIENWARE ME"

Anyone noticing that? I was recently personally attacked for recomending someone IBM...

#2 Post by **JaneL** » Tue May 31, 2005 12:15 am

Why does it matter?

Navck · #3 Post by **Navck** » Tue May 31, 2005 12:22 am

Ah, its just a popular trend to flame the first user who says "IBM" as an suggestion for a laptop out of this forum.. For me anyways, because I'm the one being flamed.

#4 Post by **JaneL** » Tue May 31, 2005 12:38 am

My advice is to ignore them.

#5 Post by **BillMorrow** » Tue May 31, 2005 1:29 am

Navck wrote:Ah, its just a popular trend to flame the first user who says "IBM" as an suggestion for a laptop out of this forum.. For me anyways, because I'm the one being flamed.

ignorant people and jalous of what they can't have..

hausman · #6 Post by **hausman** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:03 am

While I disagree with the premise that "most" people here "hate" IBM, it's worth noting that using this forum to form an opinion about ThinkPads or IBM in general is dangerous. Apart from the many ThinkPad fans who hang out here, I'd think that most visitors come here because they have issues or problems with their ThinkPads or with IBM. Those who are happy and who don't need support beyond what they get from IBM have little reason to come here. I'd think that group represents by far the majority of ThinkPad users. Any impression one might get here to the contrary is highly skewed by the minority whose experiences have been less than ideal.

#7 Post by **daeojkim** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:46 pm

The question is how many of those people who hate Thinkpads have actually owned one? I think that is more important question. Just ask that question if anyone says anything about TPs. They may say, "well friend has one and this and that yada yada yada".... Then just ignore them.

From my experience, > 95% of people who used TPs love them.

Some may think TPs are way over rated until they actually use one long term. It's like BMWs (I like to compare TPs to bimmers). Before I owned one, I thought they were unreliable over priced german piece of crap, when I always drove Japanese cars. One day I went for a test drive, I was so impressed that I signed the paper and drove one home the same day. Never regretted the decision.

TPs makes me feel the same way.

emorphien · #8 Post by **emorphien** » Tue May 31, 2005 4:01 pm

daeojkim wrote:Some may think TPs are way over rated until they actually use one long term. It's like BMWs (I like to compare TPs to bimmers). Before I owned one, I thought they were unreliable over priced german piece of crap, when I always drove Japanese cars. One day I went for a test drive, I was so impressed that I signed the paper and drove one home the same day. Never regretted the decision.

That's a bad analogy since a lot of BMWs are unreliable.

#9 Post by **daeojkim** » Tue May 31, 2005 4:13 pm

not so bad since mine has 80K miles on it and never had a problem

Navck · #10 Post by **Navck** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:20 pm

Yea, it just felt that everyone hated me or something when I brought up IBM.

#11 Post by **K. Eng** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:41 pm

Overpriced? No, I think my ThinkPad was worth it. Sellout? Well, I think IBM did sell out, and I am honest in that opinion.

ThinkPads are not 'junk' though, and Alienware is merely a repainted Sager.

Navck wrote:They're very biased on their opinion
I've heard "OVERPRICED SELLOUT"
"TITANIUM JUNK"
"IT CANT ALIENWARE ME"

Anyone noticing that? I was recently personally attacked for recomending someone IBM...

Navck · #12 Post by **Navck** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:47 pm

Actually, the Alienware is hated on the forums I go to
Its actually the "DELL XPS GEN 2 MEGA 1337TACULAR LAPGAMERTOP" they talk about...
Alienware is also an generic term in my view for "gaming laptop"...

Nice real example, and ask me if you want the entire webpage

From: 350_watt_PSU | Posted: 5/24/2005 10:30:14 PM | Message Detail | #002
He's probably buying IBM because he thinks it makes him look 1337er or something.

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#13 Post by **JaneL** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:25 pm

Navck wrote:Nice real example, and ask me if you want the entire webpage

From: 350_watt_PSU | Posted: 5/24/2005 10:30:14 PM | Message Detail | #002
He's probably buying IBM because he thinks it makes him look 1337er or something.

My stance hasn't changed. Why do you care about comments like that? Ignore them. They're just trolling.

Instead, examine the specifications of different models from different companies, read the reviews and comments from multiple forums separating the wheat from the chaff, compare them to your needs, and make your own decisions.

This is partly why, whenever someone comes in asking if they should buy not-a-TP vs TP and then proceeds to extol the virtues of the not-a-TP, I always advise them to buy the not-a-TP. My experience has been that people already have their mind made up about things, and my talking them into something else usually has an unhappy ending.

Navck · #14 Post by **Navck** » Tue May 31, 2005 8:56 pm

Actually I ask them a question on memory... (256+512 vs 512+512)
I get flamed in return as soon as I mentioned "This is for a Thinkpad I'm planning for"
If I said "THIS IS DA DELL I WAN"
They would welcome me with open arms...

Thinker · #15 Post by **Thinker** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:02 pm

I have heard that some women that are not too beautiful bash on supermodels too, specially when they are not "dumb blondes"

MSR_Steve · #16 Post by **MSR_Steve** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:19 pm

The general opinion I hear about Thinkpads is not hating them, more "nice machines but I can't afford them, and they're not that great for games".

asiafish · #17 Post by **asiafish** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:45 am

"Most" people on this list seem to be rather fond of their ThinkPads, with many owning more than one. That doesn't sound like a bunch of people who hate the product to me.

Navck · #18 Post by **Navck** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:32 am

Welcoming isn't he? Thats for asking "T43 vs T43p"

From: StevenLewisII | Posted: 6/1/2005 10:14:38 PM | Message Detail | #010
You know, if you chose another brand you could get it for much cheaper. But you're only loyal to IBM so you're screwed in the [censored].
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#19 Post by **JaneL** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:11 pm

OK, that's it. We're done.

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