T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

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T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#1 Post by kitor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:24 am

I'm looking for T420 and found one in decent condition and equipment for value, but has a problem:
There's no backlight on internal LCD. I asked seller to point flashlight directly to lcd, he says that there's visible difference when laptop is powered on (;cd get's completely black, so it's getting power), but no actual display is visible (from my experience it may be also too weak flashlight :wink: ).
He also changed lcd ribbon (hd+, replaced with proper one) and that didn't help.
I read about blown LCD/backlight fuses in many Thinkpad models - can this be a reason of this problem? I found no information about fuses in T420.

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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#2 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:41 pm

kitor wrote: I read about blown LCD/backlight fuses in many Thinkpad models - can this be a reason of this problem?
Yes. That would be the most likely culprit.
I found no information about fuses in T420.
I'm not quite certain what you mean by this statement, but if I were buying that machine I'd presume that *both* the planar and the LCD were bad, and offer something along the lines of $25...
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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#3 Post by kitor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:54 pm

I can't find any information about locations and purposes of fuses in T420. Price is higher, but still about a half of working unit with same components (ssd, ram, etc) in my country. Anyway - I checked the prices, and even in worst case scenario (need both board and lcd replacement) it's still worth buying...

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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:14 pm

The fuses concerned will all be around the LCD-cable connector on the motherboard.
Haven't seen any schematics for this one yet..., only for T420s, which is slightly different.

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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#5 Post by wileE » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:15 pm

T420 schematics say backlight is F7. It is a size 0402, 3A fast.

Same as in T410. Mainboard pics with fuse location here: http://thinkwiki.de/T410_Sicherungen
I can not say if the T420 fuses have the same location, but it is likely to be similar.

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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#6 Post by richk » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:07 pm

Another possibility on that model is the Hall sensor (lid switch). If that is the case, you can confirm by disconnecting the LCD cable all the way to the right side. This will also disconnect the microphone, camera, etc.

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Re: T420, no backlight and image on LCD, external works OK

#7 Post by kitor » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:11 pm

Ok, topic is dead as I found even better deal (two t420 with missing lcd bezels, ram and hdd, with i5, 1600x900 lcds and good condition 6 cell batteries for less than $150 equiv. total). But it's still a great lesson - I would never thought about eg. Hall sensor.

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