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thinkpad trackpoint

#1 Post by bgx » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:54 pm

Hi guus

I have some questions regarding the trackpoint in the newest Thinkpad.

I thought at some point that there were 2 kind of trackpoint:

7row keyboard and "normal" 3 trackpoint caps.

6row chicklet keyboard and low profile trackpoint with only 1 cap.

it seems i am not totally correct, as T460s seems to have even lower profile than t460
https://imgur.com/a/VjN91

Anyone can help me telling me what is where?

More sepcifically, what about
X1 carbon (2015 and 2016)
T450s
T460s
Thinkpad 13 (not yet out but soon (April). When exactly? in 2 days or in 1 month?).

Anyone has a not super low profile?

I tried a X1 carbon 2015 and it seemed to me the trackpoint is lower than on other models and thus harder to use. Any other difference?

Thanks for the clarification!

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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#2 Post by Puppy » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:58 am

That's the result for unnecessary thinness hunt. ThinkPad 13 is already listed in PSREF http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad_13 It usually takes three months to be available over here but in France I would expect it sooner.
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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#3 Post by hhhd1 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:00 am

How does the *30 series (T430/T530/..etc) fit in that mix ?

does it have trackpoint like the older *20 series, or something else ?
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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#4 Post by bgx » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:09 am

According to
http://www.vuugo.com/computers/laptops- ... p2698.html

it seems that the XX30 still have the old style.
Not sure about t430s/431u though.

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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#5 Post by brchan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:26 am

I have switched classic and soft dome caps between my W530 and older thinkpads. They all seem to be equal in height, so xx30 machines probably use the same trackpoint implementation. T431 and newer models use different keyboards so I am not sure about those.

The X1 carbon keyboard has the shallowest depth of 1.8mm (vs 2.5mm on the classic). Thus, these models would most likely have shorter trackpoints.
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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#6 Post by Ibthink » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:26 am

All models up to the Tx30 series have the old TrackPoint caps. Newer models have caps with slightly reduced height (Low Profile caps).

Seems like the T460s introduces another, even thinner kind to further reduce thickness. Also, there is the X1 Tablet coming out with the thinnest TrackPoint cap ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aym0pv-lqpA

My P50 has a Low Profile cap, the same kind as T460.
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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#7 Post by bgx » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:30 am

what about X1 carbon ? same as T460s? bigger?

thanks for the info!

kills the idea of getting a t460s for me i guess

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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#8 Post by Ibthink » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:08 am

Not sure about the Carbon, but I guess the current one will have the same cap as the T460s for sure.

T460s is basically as thin as the first X1 Carbon, so older carbon may have the slimmer cap as well. But as I mentioned, not sure. I don´t come across Carbons that often, most people who buy ThinkPads seem to buy T/X here in Germany, the X1 Carbon is rare beast compared to these.
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Re: thinkpad trackpoint

#9 Post by hhhd1 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:57 pm

thanks for the info
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