X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

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X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#1 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:37 pm

My X200s 7466-3JU runs perfectly with an Atheros AR9380 wifi card.
For my last T601FL Frankie I needed such a card, but it did not arrive in time.
So I removed it from my X200s into the Frankie.

To keep my X200s running, I tried an Intel 5350, Intel 6200N and Intel 6300N.
Drivers (both from Intel and Lenovo) install, but the card refuses to work with any of them
It shows up properly in Device Manager, and tells me everything is working, but it also keeps telling me that wifi is DISabled.
No matter what, I can't ENable it.
When I press Fn/F5 it also says that wifi is disabled and that option is greyed out.
The wifi switch works properly (tested it) and is ON.
BIOS settings are OK, but my guess is the Registry is holding me back.
Any idea where to ENable it?
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:28 am

I tried whatever solutions I could find on the web, NOTHING worked, the wifi card remained disabled.
I even uninstalled whatever power management and Intel-related programs I could find, NOTHING helped.

In my despair I removed the Atheros card from the Frankie again and put it back in my X200s: and IT WORKS AGAIN!
Three more Intel items to go on my blacklist.

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#3 Post by geka3250 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:34 pm

I suggest you to tape pins 20, 45, 47, 49 on Intel WiFi cards and try again
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#4 Post by jaspen-meyer » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:01 pm

geka3250 wrote:I suggest you to tape pins 20, 45, 47, 49 on Intel WiFi cards and try again
pin 20 = "wireless disable"
what are the other pins, or do you have a document listing the pins and their functions?
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:45 pm

When I press Fn/F5 on my X200s right now to "Change Power Settings of Wireless Radio" it shows:
- Airplane mode, Status = Off, Click to change Status: Mode On
- 802.11 Wireless Radio, Status = Off, Disabled
- Bluetooth Radio, Status = Off, Click to change Status: Radio On

What is Airplane mode? Never asked for it, no idea what it does...
Wireless: my AR9380 works perfectly...
Bluetooth: need it maybe once every 2 years.
WTF is going on here?

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#6 Post by shawross » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:06 pm

What is Aeroplane Mode?

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#7 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:31 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote: WTF is going on here?
My experience with Intel cards - starting with 2200BG and all the way through 6200 - is that unless the card was present in the system when the OS was installed, the issues of this nature are likely to arise. Lenovo Forums is a chock full of stories that resemble your experience in one way or another, with the card refusing to "enable" itself.

Do I have an explanation? No, not really.

I do, however, have a suggestion: stick with AR9380 and forget everything else.
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#8 Post by geka3250 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:52 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote: what are the other pins, or do you have a document listing the pins and their functions?
45 - CL_CLK_WLAN
47 - CL_DATA_WLAN
49 - CL_RST_WLAN
These pins are not required WiFi to work. Have to be taped on Broadcom cards to work in Thinkpad
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#9 Post by jaspen-meyer » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:12 am

This is an MS Windows issue.

If your case were judged, the registry would hang.

Here are some ideas:
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forum ... irelesssdk
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib ... 10%29.aspx

"What is airplane mode? Airplane mode is a setting that gives you a quick way to turn off all wireless communication on your PC." (source http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/wind ... plane-mode)
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#10 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:41 am

shawross wrote:What is Aeroplane Mode?
RBS you need to get out more. :D
I've been all over the place with various ThinkPads (some with Intel 6200N or 6300N, but until now I've never had (or seen at least) that Airplane Mode!
According to that M$-link it's something for W8 (I have W7 Pro), and doesn't seem to work all that well anyway (why am I not surprised?).
Aerplane Mode probably switches everything OFF and then wifi probably remains OFF until the next OS-install (or you put in AR9380). :evil:
But then again, when does one ever use Fn/F5? Me, I only use it when I have wifi-problems.

Unfortunately both Registry-links were not helpful.

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#11 Post by jaspen-meyer » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:58 am

Are you using a modified bios?

Do the Intel cards work under Linux?
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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#12 Post by thinkpadcollection » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:40 pm

I had a same problem trying a intel 5300 in my dell D531 notebook. Sees it but then fails when driver is installed. I had to get atheros based wifi from my junk pile and that worked 100%.

Seems the intel prefers 100% intel burger for people to eat even sometimes the bios had to be untouched? :P

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#13 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:00 pm

Yes, it has a modded BIOS 3.17 with Slic2.1 added and Whitelist removed, after which I installed that AR9380 card.
And probably because I never use Fn/F5 I never noticed that wifi was disabled in some obscure way, but AR9380 works anyway.
Too much hassle to swap wifi cards and try Linux, I'm not into that until W7 disappears. No W8 or W10 for me!

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Re: X200s doesn't like any Intel wifi

#14 Post by jaspen-meyer » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:29 am

I was speculating either the OS or a modified bios with a bug were causing the issue.
Testing with a live Linux cd would isolate the OS as the culprit.

So did fn+f5 fix the problem?
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