Hypermemory for X300?

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Hypermemory for X300?

#1 Post by Navck » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:50 pm

I hear that the X300 supports the sharing of the system memory, is that true? As I would love to play Command and Conquer Generals on this system... But on the lowest settings I can't even play...

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#2 Post by JHaislet » Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:21 am

C&C won't play with the 64MB on die DDR? Wow, that's suprising!

I don't believe the X300 is setup to map regular system memory for texture manipulation. With a dual-channel setup that provides ~8GB/s of memory bandwidth & a PM which only uses about 4.2GB/s of bandwidth, allowing the video card to make use of that "extra" bandwidth makes sense, but I've never heard of that feature being implemented. Usually if there is ANY way of allowing this, there would be a bios setting which controls this feature. To my knowledge, I've never heard anyone mention anything along these lines; as I too have been seriously researching the x300 vs vl3200 graphics.

I feel I "might" need something more than the 64MB ram with the x300, but the vl3200 might be a tad over-kill for what I do. It would be the perfect compromise if they increased the x300 ram to 128MB. Being business driven though, I doubt the T43 will ever see this feature. Maybe on the next T4x or T5x.
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#3 Post by Navck » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:04 am

Actually C&C Generals + Zero Hour.
Yes, everything set to low and EXTREAME stuttering. Not fun at all. Search for
Turbo Cache
Hypermemory

Turbo Cache is nVidia's version
Hypermemory is ATI's version
They both have your videocard leech off your system memory. So you technically get more memory for your videocard, but less for your system. VL3200 + 2200 pricetag even with EPP = Thats why I didn't get the T43p.

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Re: Hypermemory for X300?

#4 Post by Scorpiontico » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:39 pm

Navck wrote:I hear that the X300 supports the sharing of the system memory, is that true? As I would love to play Command and Conquer Generals on this system... But on the lowest settings I can't even play...
wow thats weird! i play unreal 2004 with medium settings perfectly (with high settings performance is affected but still playable) and also doom 3 at low settings (not lowest! with some other graphics options at normal settings)... i have warcraft 3 and the upgrade frozen throne that runs so nice on my lappy with everything at highest settings, C&C is like WC3 therefore i wouldnt actually know why C&C wont play as WC3 does with the x300 (in my opinion).

regards...i have a 266872u with 1gb pc4200, 2ghz cpu, x300 gpu and 80gb 5400rpm hd.
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#5 Post by K. Eng » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:11 pm

As far as I know only some X300 based graphics cards support hypermemory, and I don't believe the mobile X300 in the ThinkPad has this feature.
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#6 Post by Navck » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:35 pm

512MB ram/X300/1.86GHz Somnoma (133 FSB?)
Barely can play it on low. Its like someone pauses, then unpauses every 1-2 seconds...
Could it be my RAM? (The lack of it)

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#7 Post by K. Eng » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:08 pm

Maybe it's the video driver.

C&C: Generals came out a couple years ago, IIRC. One of my friends was playing it on a system with 2.13 GHz P4 (1.6 overclocked), 512MB RAM, and Radeon 8500 64MB, which is significantly less powerful than your system.
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#8 Post by Navck » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:21 pm

I'm still using the generic drivers that came with my system
I also overclocked by maybe 15MHz to ensure this doesn't happen... But it still does, any suggestions? (Omega drivers?)

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#9 Post by JHaislet » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:51 pm

Sounds like you've got something running in the background that's stealing CPU cycles or HDD access. Also, set the clock speed to default & update your video drivers from ATI's website.
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#10 Post by Navck » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:02 am

Hmm the only things I run are the standard things... Not anything else... (0-1% CPU usage)...
Drivers may help?

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#11 Post by Navck » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:37 pm

Sorry for doublepost... But slow is what my Thinkpad is. You know ATI Tool's weird "Scan for artificats" tool? I notice it "pauses' the timer on the bottom and top window often (Like my system is stopping and starting VERY often.) The top "Running for" is also off sync with bottom "No errors for"
I then do the SAME test on a old 1.8GHz Celeron system with 512MB of RAM and an old Ge Force 3 Ti 500 graphics card. And behold, no problems! I'm slightly annoyed that my TP can't do anything that involves 3D graphics... And it acts like it has intergrated graphics (Not happy)

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#12 Post by spikex34 » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:25 am

The Moblity X300 definitely has hypermemory support in Vista. I'm not entirely sure it makes a huge subjective difference though.
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#13 Post by JHaislet » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:03 am

X300 Hyper-memory in Vista? Yeah, I'd say so!
(This is on my T43 w/X300 64MB graphics)

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