Computer motherboard requirement PCI-E allocation

[thinkpadcollection]

I do not mind buying 2nd or 3rd gen i core computer like Dell or HP based on socket 2011 or Xeon to get more PCI-E lanes so primary PCI-E 16x is untouched at 16x lanes for video card while other PCI-E slots are used is the goal. Getting one from ebay is the goal if price is right. Cannot do this with any of 1156, 1155 and 1150 sockets as they only have 16x allocated and Dell boards (MT, like 9010) based on this have 16x, 1x and 16x and second 16x slot wired as 4x means 8x and 4x and one wasted 4x. I do not find that logical.

Second, I can not justify the new hardware price yet in canada. To build one in near future (summer or bit later), means more than 1,000 based on new i7 using 1151 means scrimping on PCI-E lanes or box as I specified as based on socket 2011-3.

I'm so satifised with my aging Optiplex 780 but eventually I need to move on to little newer than that, to a i7 or xeon.

Thanks all cheers, thinkpadcollection

[TonyJZX]

if you're doing this on a budget then your choice is only x79... x99 will be too expensive.

Then your goal is to find a workstation either from Dell HP or Lenovo than runs this.

The Z800s and the Lenovo S30s would fit but they too arent cheap even 2nd hand.'

I think you can forget about building a PC unless you really luck out, the x79 boards are in demand.

[thinkpadcollection]

Lot of research ended up a Dell T3500 in future budget. Fill it up with full 24GB DDR3 1333 sticks regular or ECC (won't take registered type) and decent 4/8 core/threads cpu xeon, upgrade to mid to high end video card in the cards. I have been satisfied with my Optiplex 780 for years with win10 pro till 3.33GHz C2D is the bottleneck on scrolling in browser sometimes is the prompting card for me.

The T3500's PCI-E allocation is full: 2x 16x slots (not dual card capable, moot point for me anyway), 2x 8x slots and two PCI slots. T5500 is more flexible with memory capacity up to 48GB using registered memory using 8GB sticks (2Rx4 usually) and one of PCI slots is replaced with 100MHz PCI-X. Bit spendy but case is same and PSU is upgraded to 800W plus. Everything same between both. T7500 would be nice but much taller case, not to matters for me because many consumer if video cards is long enough then have power plugs may in the way for T3500/T5500 dual HD tray. Also T7500 is way over too expensive to buy at first but can swing it if I'm forced to based on your advices. Always single CPU (quad or hex cores) anyway.

I always have dual hard drives hooked up in my 780 PC and I liked horizontal HDs, not vertical.

Decisions, decisions.

This is for a holdover to better computer.

Cheers, thinkpadcollection

[excal32]

Lot of research ended up a Dell T3500 in future budget. Fill it up with full 24GB DDR3 1333 sticks regular or ECC (won't take registered type) and decent 4/8 core/threads cpu xeon, upgrade to mid to high end video card in the cards. I have been satisfied with my Optiplex 780 for years with win10 pro till 3.33GHz C2D is the bottleneck on scrolling in browser sometimes is the prompting card for me.

The T3500's PCI-E allocation is full: 2x 16x slots (not dual card capable, moot point for me anyway), 2x 8x slots and two PCI slots. T5500 is more flexible with memory capacity up to 48GB using registered memory using 8GB sticks (2Rx4 usually) and one of PCI slots is replaced with 100MHz PCI-X. Bit spendy but case is same and PSU is upgraded to 800W plus. Everything same between both. T7500 would be nice but much taller case, not to matters for me because many consumer if video cards is long enough then have power plugs may in the way for T3500/T5500 dual HD tray. Also T7500 is way over too expensive to buy at first but can swing it if I'm forced to based on your advices. Always single CPU (quad or hex cores) anyway.

I always have dual hard drives hooked up in my 780 PC and I liked horizontal HDs, not vertical.

Decisions, decisions.

This is for a holdover to better computer.

Cheers, thinkpadcollection

Get a cheap H81 motherboard.
Get a Pentium G4400.
Get some DDR4 RAM
And get a GPU with a faster clock than the CPU's.
Either get new psu or a molex to 4 pin adapter because modern mobos need 2x 4 pin ATX12V

You will probably spend just as much and have a much better machine! G4400 is barely any less powerful than i3 6100. I have both those CPUs and I end up doing all my work on the Pentium which is actually faster as it has a GTX 1060 in it (just upgraded from GTX 950 which was also stellar)

[thinkpadcollection]

You're litle hot on the heels, here in canada is not as it seems to be in money wise. All are in canadian dollars, and I will not change my mind on Asus boards. I have been using them for decades starting in 1995 with a pentium board.

Intel Core i3-6100 Dual-Core Processor 3.7GHz 3MB 159.99 Appox 40 more than Pentium G4500 @ 3.5GHz. Also Better GPU (HD 530) 350MHz-1050MHz

Asus, ATX preferred; B150 chipset is between 130 to 150, H170 is about 175, C232 is about 190. PCI-E allocation is still a problem due to 1151 socket and I do not want to buy again due to price of "el-cheapo" as you called it here is not same. I would have to save up much more for socket 2011.
Boardwell i7 does not have any 2011-3 CPUs, and Skylake does have one Intel Core i7-6850K for $855.00. I wanted 4 core. Wither, intel?
Another option i7-6800K 3.3GHz 3.6GHz turbo, 6 core/12 threads, $599.00 (2011-v3).

I'm tired of oddball mATX boards with 3 slots, even true 4 as well. Keep in mind; one slot below the PCI-E x16 location is a lost cause due to good GPU cards, 1 slot wide type is weak performer. I run at least 2 slots, and future to add good sound card and M.2 SSD or SATA SSD along with spinners.

Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2133MHz C12 Memory Kit (997197F) 139.99 These tend to work well with stock heatspeaders mushkin came with for life. I had several with heatspeaders and they did not fail and reliable. Or dig some true OEM memory either micron or elpida from ebay. My favorite method.

Do not have a chassis and fugly looks, poor design out there, 150 to 200 for nice case if found and PSU separately.

Except the 2011-3 skylake i7-6850K, total price for computer components listed is about 650. And that is not even done for GPU card.
To buy new parts here in canada, I tend to do it right once due to price issue.


Save up for discrete GPU later.

On ebay I can get a Xeon 4 core/8 threads Xeon E5-1630 3.7/4.0GHz turbo 2011-V3 for 520 plus shipping from USA usually, 40 PCI-E lanes.

Cheers, thinkpadcollection