Best "x" series for an i7
Best "x" series for an i7
Hey guys! really like the X2** series of laptops. Epsecially the X230, its the best thing that i can afford. Anyways, i wanna buy one of these laptops, and upgrade it to an i7 thats 4c 8t, s it will be closely on par to my y50 lenovo.
Anyways, im not a complete noob on these stuffs. I do alot of laptop repairs, and i happened to change the cpu on a few laptops. Its not a problem for me, my question is just, is it possible to change the cpu on an X series, without changing the mobo (its soldered, or in a socket?)
Itd be best if the x230 has this ability, to handle a i7-3630qm or so, its the best thing for my price range.
I know that i might need a better charger, better cooling and all that stuff, i jsut want to knwo if its even possible to change the CPu, does the bios handle it and all that stuffs. Pls tell me wich thinkpad should i get for thsi. X201, X220, or X230?
If it doesnt, what laptop will be able to handle a quad core i7, thats about 200$? (200$ with any cpu, ill change it). Requirements are under 14", and has to be a thinkpad. I dont need optical drives, jsut a big battery and good screen (wich i also can change) are my requirements.
Thnaks to anyone in advance
Anyways, im not a complete noob on these stuffs. I do alot of laptop repairs, and i happened to change the cpu on a few laptops. Its not a problem for me, my question is just, is it possible to change the cpu on an X series, without changing the mobo (its soldered, or in a socket?)
Itd be best if the x230 has this ability, to handle a i7-3630qm or so, its the best thing for my price range.
I know that i might need a better charger, better cooling and all that stuff, i jsut want to knwo if its even possible to change the CPu, does the bios handle it and all that stuffs. Pls tell me wich thinkpad should i get for thsi. X201, X220, or X230?
If it doesnt, what laptop will be able to handle a quad core i7, thats about 200$? (200$ with any cpu, ill change it). Requirements are under 14", and has to be a thinkpad. I dont need optical drives, jsut a big battery and good screen (wich i also can change) are my requirements.
Thnaks to anyone in advance
Last edited by yakuza on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
Best X series is subjective.
X201:
-Best build quality
-i7-640lm still delivers very reasonable performance
-Screen is meh, but can be swapped out for a nice WXGA IPS screen (CCFL only), or outfitted with an average TN WSXGA+ screen (LED).
-max 8gb ram
X220/X230:
-Extreme water resistance
-A bit less rigid than the previous X series, but still reasonable
-WIFI antennas at the top of the lid often break if care is not taken.
-Much faster overall, max 16gb ram
-Available with only a 1366x768 TN or average IPS screen. (can be fitted with FHD IPS screen but is difficult to mod)
-X230 has a worse keyboard layout, but available with backlit keyboard.
None of the X series in existence have swapable CPUs. They are all soldered. Even if they weren't, they would not be able to handle a full voltage QC, since the T430 has trouble with a 3620qm on sustained loads.
X201:
-Best build quality
-i7-640lm still delivers very reasonable performance
-Screen is meh, but can be swapped out for a nice WXGA IPS screen (CCFL only), or outfitted with an average TN WSXGA+ screen (LED).
-max 8gb ram
X220/X230:
-Extreme water resistance
-A bit less rigid than the previous X series, but still reasonable
-WIFI antennas at the top of the lid often break if care is not taken.
-Much faster overall, max 16gb ram
-Available with only a 1366x768 TN or average IPS screen. (can be fitted with FHD IPS screen but is difficult to mod)
-X230 has a worse keyboard layout, but available with backlit keyboard.
None of the X series in existence have swapable CPUs. They are all soldered. Even if they weren't, they would not be able to handle a full voltage QC, since the T430 has trouble with a 3620qm on sustained loads.
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
None of those X-models can accommodate a quad i7, since they all have soldered CPUs.
The "highest" you can get is an X230 with "regular" i7-3520M.
But all X220/X230 can be upgraded with an FHD (1920x1080) screen and the X230 also with a classic keyboard from the X220.
The nearest Thinkpad in your budget for a quad i7 would be the T420.
See http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=115636
The "highest" you can get is an X230 with "regular" i7-3520M.
But all X220/X230 can be upgraded with an FHD (1920x1080) screen and the X230 also with a classic keyboard from the X220.
The nearest Thinkpad in your budget for a quad i7 would be the T420.
See http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=115636
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
ok, so any cpu replacements with any X series is just impossible. Thanks, ill consider that while buying one of them, and jsut get a better CPU from the start.
Maybe something also compact, but with an i7 quad core possibilty?
Maybe something also compact, but with an i7 quad core possibilty?
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
the t420 is fine, but its a bit too big of a size for me. The x230 suits me better, maybe ill jsutstick iwth getting an x230 as i have an i7 laptop anwyay. I want the thing mainly for school. And the x230 has better gpu (hd4000), i might sometimes game slightly on it
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
the things that im most interested in are
t430
l430
x220, and...
x230
Wich shoudl i get? I liek the x230 the most. DO the t430 and l430 have soldered on cpus? Or interchangeable?
t430
l430
x220, and...
x230
Wich shoudl i get? I liek the x230 the most. DO the t430 and l430 have soldered on cpus? Or interchangeable?
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
X series and slim-T series have soldered CPUs, so if you are really set on a quad-core, forget them.
Regular T series and L series have socketed CPUs, and you can upgrade them. I know that some folks are running Quad cores in their 14" T series machines. It should be fine, although you may want to use a beefier power supply like a 135/170W.
Regular T series and L series have socketed CPUs, and you can upgrade them. I know that some folks are running Quad cores in their 14" T series machines. It should be fine, although you may want to use a beefier power supply like a 135/170W.
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
yep, i know about the power supply. I jsut dont knwo particular models.dr_st wrote:X series and slim-T series have soldered CPUs, so if you are really set on a quad-core, forget them.
Regular T series and L series have socketed CPUs, and you can upgrade them. I know that some folks are running Quad cores in their 14" T series machines. It should be fine, although you may want to use a beefier power supply like a 135/170W.
So, a t430 (normal, nto "s") should be having a socketed cpu? And what about the "l" series 430? I want the new ones, at elast 3gen intels
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
You could try use i7-3612QM or i7-3632QM, which both have 35W TDP.
For those who interested in buying X220/X230 FHD kit: Read this before sending me a PM!
X230: i7-3520M | 16GB RAM | 512GB M.2 Micron M600 | LG LP125WF2-SPB4 FHD IPS | 9c Li-Ion | Win8.1 Pro 64
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
in a l430 or t430 u sayin?nitrocaster wrote:You could try use i7-3612QM or i7-3632QM, which both have 35W TDP.
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
Those are available in BGA and rPGA packages, so you can use them in both X230 and T430.
For those who interested in buying X220/X230 FHD kit: Read this before sending me a PM!
X230: i7-3520M | 16GB RAM | 512GB M.2 Micron M600 | LG LP125WF2-SPB4 FHD IPS | 9c Li-Ion | Win8.1 Pro 64
X230: i7-3520M | 16GB RAM | 512GB M.2 Micron M600 | LG LP125WF2-SPB4 FHD IPS | 9c Li-Ion | Win8.1 Pro 64
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
but that onvolse soldering on a x230? And, is the t430 a soldered or socketed laptopnitrocaster wrote:Those are available in BGA and rPGA packages, so you can use them in both X230 and T430.
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
Sure, but you asked for X series and you wrote that you can replace a soldered CPU.yakuza wrote:but that onvolse soldering on a x230?
T430 has socketed CPU.
For those who interested in buying X220/X230 FHD kit: Read this before sending me a PM!
X230: i7-3520M | 16GB RAM | 512GB M.2 Micron M600 | LG LP125WF2-SPB4 FHD IPS | 9c Li-Ion | Win8.1 Pro 64
X230: i7-3520M | 16GB RAM | 512GB M.2 Micron M600 | LG LP125WF2-SPB4 FHD IPS | 9c Li-Ion | Win8.1 Pro 64
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
i meant changing the cpu when its a socketed, not soldered. Changing a soldered one is impossible for me (i dont have the equipment). Today i actually changed a cpunitrocaster wrote:Sure, but you asked for X series and you wrote that you can replace a soldered CPU.yakuza wrote:but that onvolse soldering on a x230?
T430 has socketed CPU.
PC's
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
youtube.com/channel/UCObTbAa_K7qTOx1EKuEieHw
Lenovo Y50 (i7-4710hq, 8gb, 1tb SSHD, 4k, 860m)
Thinkpad T30 (2.2ghz P4-M, 2gb, 60gb5400)
Dead DV6500 (i have parts, interested, contact me)
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
I have a i7-3612QM in my T420 but it requires custom bios. I'm not sure if it would run non-linux operating systems. Temperatures are about 70C under 100% cpu load.nitrocaster wrote:You could try use i7-3612QM or i7-3632QM, which both have 35W TDP.
T420 Ivy Bridge i7 3612QM, x24 xiphmont led, x60s libreboot, led, T400 libreboot, (in progress testing Q9100)
Re: Best "x" series for an i7
X220 water resistance is superior to the X230, according to YouTube shower and dunk tests.
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Re: Best "x" series for an i7
X220 i7-2640M | FHD IPS 12.5" | 16GB @ 1866 | 256GB mSATA | 2TB 5400 HDD
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