Retro ThinkPad is.. alive!(?)

[fourthree]

Have fun guys.

Cue David Hill taking it to a ride and blasting it with a shotgun.. ThinkPad dies? Bullets reflected back at Hill and Hill dies? Who knows! Wait for the 25th anniversary!

Everyone feel free to place their bets on what we'll get.

[Pokrzept]

IMHO Yoga 370 with few minor mods, premium finish and price tag around 3,000 bucks. Please look back and search for informations about another Anniversary ThinkPad - Reserve Edition.

[Thinkpad4by3]

Have fun guys.

Cue David Hill taking it to a ride and blasting it with a shotgun.. ThinkPad dies? Bullets reflected back at Hill and Hill dies? Who knows! Wait for the 25th anniversary!

Everyone feel free to place their bets on what we'll get.

David hill: We put this keyboard on the thinkpad because it has a good layout

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[ajkula66]

IMHO Yoga 370 with few minor mods, premium finish and price tag around 3,000 bucks.

Ouch.

Please look back and search for informations about another Anniversary ThinkPad - Reserve Edition.

At least that one was 4:3...

[Pokrzept]

Well ye, it was 4:3, but $ 5,000 bucks for an medium speced x61s stuffed into leather case with an rubberized palmrest and display frame does not seem to be reasonable price anyway. I do own 3 of those and I can tell you that whenever x61s sits in this leather cover you may use it as an electric heater instead of computer.

[Thinkpad4by3]

Well ye, it was 4:3, but $ 5,000 bucks for an medium speced x61s stuffed into leather case with an rubberized palmrest and display frame does not seem to be reasonable price anyway. I do own 3 of those and I can tell you that whenever x61s sits in this leather cover you may use it as an electric heater instead of computer.

So basically an updated smaller 600 laptop with a leather cover. Sounds like disaster for people with OCD.

[MikalE]

I'm looking forward to see what they have come up with.

The article said it would not be $5000.

[TPFanatic]

The X61 Reserve's pricetag was probably for the 24 hour support hotline.

[ZaZ]

When I buy a notebook these days, I'm usually around $500-600, cause that's what I need to spend to get something good. I don't use my notebook a ton, which is why I have a Dell, so if this ventures into the four figures territory, I think I'll pass.

[dr_st]

When I buy a notebook these days, I'm usually around $500-600, cause that's what I need to spend to get something good. I don't use my notebook a ton, which is why I have a Dell, so if this ventures into the four figures territory, I think I'll pass.

I sure hope it ventures into the 4-figure territory (in US dollars that is). On such a specialty project, development/production premiums are bound to be high, so if you cost-cut it so much to keep it under some arbitrary figure, it will just suck.

I don't think you are the target auditory of this product at all, ZaZ. You seem unphased by the new keyboard. And this product is not supposed to be a mainstream laptop, or even an average business laptop. It's supposed to be a premium model for fans of a particular idea. And those fans better be ready to spend premium money. Not some imaginary $5000, no, but let's say, like a good solid Macbook Pro. That's a reasonable price for what this product aims to be (at least in my imagination).

[Thinkpad4by3]

I have a feeling David Hill is going to give us a 4:3 LCD.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/618

That should be enough resolution for photoshop.

and a mechanical keyboard layout too.



Yup, that should be a great improvement over the xx40 series heh.

Well, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping somebody gets a brain in their head.
If FRUIT can learn to put removable RAM, CPU, and SSD after 8 years, can Lenovo learn to put a 4:3 display and a good keyboard after 8 years?????

[MikalE]

I'm hoping around the $1800 to $2300 price point. I don#t want it to suck either and I want primo components not a bunch of junk they use on the E series or worse.

[Thinkpad4by3]

I'm hoping around the $1800 to $2300 price point. I don#t want it to suck either and I want primo components not a bunch of junk they use on the E series or worse.

Basically we want a Lenovo version of the T70 or X62.

[ZaZ]

I don't think you are the target auditory of this product at all

Very true my friend.

[pianowizard]

It's supposed to be a premium model for fans of a particular idea. And those fans better be ready to spend premium money.

Here's a warning for everyone considering this Retro Thinkpad: Given its high price tag and small target market, it is going to depreciate super fast, much faster than the average Thinkpad or most other laptops. Buy it only if you intend to keep it for a long time, >5 years. For this reason alone, I won't be buying it, at least not new. A premium commodity can retain its value only if many consumers desire it. The vast majority of consumers are going to find the Retro Thinkpad ugly and old school.

Experienced sellers on this forum must have noticed that laptops depreciate much faster now than they did a decade ago. The Retro Thinkpad will lose value even faster.

[MikalE]

I don't buy computers as investment pieces so I have no worries.

I still have 10+ year old desktops running as well as the day I bought them with no intention of selling.

[Puppy]

The vast majority of consumers are going to find the Retro Thinkpad ugly and old school.

The vast majority of consumers have no own opinion. If Lenovo pushed hard ads and other (a)social fluff about it (which won't happen, of course), they'd find it cool.

[dr_st]

Here's a warning for everyone considering this Retro Thinkpad: Given its high price tag and small target market, it is going to depreciate super fast, much faster than the average Thinkpad or most other laptops. Buy it only if you intend to keep it for a long time, >5 years. For this reason alone, I won't be buying it, at least not new. A premium commodity can retain its value only if many consumers desire it. The vast majority of consumers are going to find the Retro Thinkpad ugly and old school.

Experienced sellers on this forum must have noticed that laptops depreciate much faster now than they did a decade ago. The Retro Thinkpad will lose value even faster.

We all appreciate the warning, but a few follow-up questions:

How do you know that it's going to have a high price tag? High compared to what? A low-end Thinkpad or a premium laptop like a Macbook?

How do you know the vast majority of consumers will find it ugly and old school? Have you seen it? Have you heard anything substantial about its features or did you manage to deduce more than everyone else from David Hill's blog post?

How can you predict the supply and demand without knowing anything about this model and any possible future models? If they only make a single model, with no next-generation follow-ups, then it will retain its value much more than the average laptop, for its uniqueness. If they only run a small production line, then it will also retain high value, due to low availability (think W700/W701?)

Not to mention that for many users the depreciation of value of their laptop is not of any concern.

[Summilux]

Here's a warning for everyone considering this Retro Thinkpad: Given its high price tag and small target market, it is going to depreciate super fast, much faster than the average Thinkpad or most other laptops. Buy it only if you intend to keep it for a long time, >5 years. For this reason alone, I won't be buying it, at least not new.

Do you often sell your TPs, Piano ? And to non-TP hoarders ?

I'm asking because I don't think much people here take the resale value into consideration. On the contrary, they tend to accumulate instead of parting with their computers. Proper computers, that is.

If the Classic TP is going to be decent (by our standards of course, not Lenovo's ) then buyers will probably keep it for a couple of years. Especially if the laptop was overpriced to boot.

As to mainstream consumers, they've long found TPs ugly. Back in 2006 someone made fun of my brand new T60 because he thought it was an antiquated model Joke was on him zo, he was the one typing on his non-TP piece of junk