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New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#1 Post by Quardah » Tue May 15, 2018 1:31 pm

Hi folks.

Lenovo has been teasing a new ThinkPad lines made with AMD APUs instead of the regular Intel CPU or Intel CPU + NVIDIA dGPU.

More info here :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-AM ... 102.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Th ... 194.0.html

The new ThinkPads seem to be copycats of X and T series (A285 looks like an X280, and A485 looks like a T480 from my understanding).

What are your thoughts on this? I think newer Ryzen CPUs are very decent and having a single APU with general performances instead of the old Optimus setup might just be better for certain usecases.

(Right now, dGPUs are a mess imo)

Let me know!

To mods and admins :

There is already a subforum for 'ThinkPad R, A, G and Z Series' but the new A series has no real connexion with the previous A series. I'd like to know if we can ask to create a new subforum for this new line.

Also the newer A series should go under 'Post-Classic Lenovo Hardware' too (because it's brand new stuff :D).
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#2 Post by TPFanatic » Tue May 15, 2018 2:01 pm

They should not even be a new series. There are historically E530 - E535, E540 - E545, E550 - E555. They are just T and X series clones and should be named as such: T485 and X285.
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#3 Post by Summilux » Tue May 15, 2018 3:11 pm

Would love to buy a Ryzen-powered Thinkpad... were it fitted with a proper screen and keyboard. Sigh.
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#4 Post by Ibthink » Tue May 15, 2018 5:07 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 2:01 pm
They should not even be a new series. There are historically E530 - E535, E540 - E545, E550 - E555. They are just T and X series clones and should be named as such: T485 and X285.
Well, its not the first time that Lenovo does it like that. After all, the W series was – with the notable exception of the W700(ds)/W701(ds) – also just a clone of the corresponding 15" T series model of the time, with a few small differences and a different GPU. Leaving the W700(ds)/W701(ds) aside, they could have continued with the Txxp-naming-style, but they didn't.

As for the E series, no one cares about those anyway :lol: Small jokes aside, I do consider the new A series to be more of a "momentous occasion" compared with some E series models. After all, this is the first time that the "mainline" ThinkPad models are also available with AMD CPUs. Calling them T485 and X285 feels like slightly underselling their importance, as ThinkPads were pretty safely a part of the Intel camp (with the exception of the ThinkPad 800 series and also a few low-end Lenovo machines like the X100e and E series laptops) since IBM created the brand in 1992.

Naming, after all, is also marketing. Though, if you are cynical, you may also think that they did this so the T/X series don't get harmed if the A series flops. :twisted:
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#5 Post by TPFanatic » Tue May 15, 2018 7:48 pm

There was also the X100e and newer series available with AMD processors, which were pretty slow until they got Core i3 processors.
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#6 Post by Saucey » Tue May 15, 2018 7:54 pm

The new A-Series have OK performance, the passmark scores are somewhere between the i3 and i5.
I don't know if Lenovo would make a Ryzen ThinkPad yet, they might do an Ideapad gaming laptop first and see how it goes.

It would be nice to see an Ryzen workstation with a decent AMD FirePro but I doubt that'll happen.
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#7 Post by Puppy » Wed May 16, 2018 3:29 am

Be careful, Lenovo creativity to use extremely crappy displays might reach another level on this series.
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#8 Post by Quardah » Wed May 16, 2018 10:02 am

You guys are bringing some good points to check prior to purchase. I like that!

- Check the display quality
- Check if it's only a rebranded E series (if so, extend the E subforum to include A new laptop since the E series will die)
- Check if the graphical capacities are decent.

Btw what's the difference between L and E then? I've heard a lot of folks saying the E series is just reskined ideapads but then what is the L series? Just cheaper T?
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#9 Post by Quardah » Wed May 16, 2018 12:30 pm

Admin made a new subforum for this new line!

Thx admins you're the BEST!!! :D
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#10 Post by penartur » Thu May 17, 2018 6:54 am

I wonder if A485 could be upgraded with Thinkpad 25 Anniversary keyboard (which goes for $100 on ebay). That would make for a nice laptop...
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Re: New ThinkPad series : A series (A285 and A485)

#11 Post by Self_Propelled_Crane » Mon May 21, 2018 12:40 pm

Not to rain on the parade or anything, but aren't AMD laptops kinda run hot ("AMD turned my laptop into a toaster" is the common refrain)? I hear that complaint from almost all my peers who have AMD-based laptops.
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