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Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#1 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:31 am

I been using Windows 7 for years and still like it, I bought a key and installed a new drive in my old IBM ThinkCentre tower that has a Pentium 4 HT. Windows 10 Pro 64bit runs nice and smooth but don't like the layout of 10 nor the missing options and such. Is there anyway to contact and get Microsoft to make a REAL Windows Classic and not just a skin like I would download from classicshell. They did real full theme changes before so why can't they put time into it now being they said windows 10 is there last OS. This is how I liked it, basic and simple. https://www.google.com/search?q=WIndows ... 9447917901 with all the options I can view, now even the control panel is messed up. But I also keep hearing rumors Microsoft is slowly switching Windows 10 to a service and they already started with windows 10 for businesses.
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#2 Post by dr_st » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:42 am

I doubt you represent a large enough customer base for them to care about. By now, I would bet there are more people out there that actively prefer the new UI, because this is what they are used to. Making a different UI isn't a one-time-thing, you have to constantly maintain it as well, which is an endless drain of resources for little gain.

Very few options are actually lost in Win10 compared to Win7. More are added. Many are changed, but ClassicShell and the like will get a lot of them back for you. It's not a battle worth fighting.
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#3 Post by Summilux » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:04 pm

I guess at this point your best bet is to back React OS :|
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#4 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:35 pm

Well heres something. Would it be easier to install Windows 7 back on it and then on a HDD of its own run virtualbox and install Windows 10 on it. and if I need to use anything Windows 10 requires would that work and run windows 10 from the windows 7 desktop? Never really used virtualbox. Or would it be easier to just dualboot 2 HDDs with 7 on one and 10 on the other? I am just getting somethings ready for when Windows 7 comes into XP status and will have to use newer browsers on 10 due to 7 not supporting them.
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#5 Post by Puppy » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:34 am

Windows 10 UI isn't actually that bad if you customize it. It is has been always like that with Microsoft products (including Windows 7) that the default settings are terrible :roll: There are a lot of good (and bad of course) things.

What makes me worry is actually the quality of the product. Nadella hates Windows OS (he has already killed Windows 10 Mobile) and moves Windows development resources to other departments (Office 365, Azure). There is almost no Quality Assurance anymore because the latest bug that deleted files for some users was already reported a month ago by many people in Insider program via the official Feedback Hub channel, but had been completely ignored by the Microsoft team :(

Fortunately the Windows 10 core/kernel is still pretty good but it is rather a legacy from old times before Nadella started to dismantle the Windows team. You can see the actual Windows development quality on things more visible to users like many small (but annoying) UI bugs or bugs in the stock applications. It seems as he wants Microsoft to become another IBM :(
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#6 Post by dr_st » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:52 am

The quality and consistency differences between the generally excellent Windows kernel core and the generally "so-so" UI has been there, seemingly since the earliest NT builds. It's worrisome if the discrepancy is getting worse instead of better.
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#7 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:19 am

In my experiences with 10 I often noticed elements of the Metro UI not appearing. There is also some redundancy of applications between Metro and "classic"? For example there being both a Metro Settings App and a Windows 7 style Control Panel which both do the same things...
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#8 Post by pianowizard » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:27 am

Puppy wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:34 am
Windows 10 UI isn't actually that bad if you customize it.
What surprises me is that many people on this *computer* forum don't know that:
1) the preinstalled apps can be uninstalled;
2) the Start Menu can be resized;
3) the Start Menu icons can be resized or moved around;
4) >95% of the telemetry can be disabled;
5) there is an extremely useful right-click Start Menu;
6) you can add Control Panel to the Start Menu;
7) etc. etc.

I've installed Windows 10 on several dozen computers now, and each time I spend several minutes to do all these things so that the UI is optimized, and so that the amount of "spying" is acceptable (not much more than Windows 7). And of course I also do the same performance tweaks that I have been doing since the XP era.

IMO Windows 10's UI is the best ever, thanks to the new Start Menu icons, the right-click Start Menu, and several new keyboard shortcuts. So it's a shame that Windows 10 is ruined by Microsoft's increasingly lousy quality check of updates, which is exacerbated by the fact that most users can't control which updates to install.
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It seems as he wants Microsoft to become another IBM :(
Spinning off the Windows division into an independent company might actually be a good thing.
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Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:19 am
For example there being both a Metro Settings App and a Windows 7 style Control Panel which both do the same things...
So just pick whichever you prefer.
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Re: Microsoft with real Windows Classic for 10

#9 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:11 am

The Classic Control Panel does not show Windows Store apps (including Candy Crush) IIRC. There is really no reason for it to be there.
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