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LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#1 Post by Puppy » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:52 am

LG Gram 17 is a big laptop that weighs less than 3 pounds
https://liliputing.com/2018/12/lg-gram- ... ounds.html

It has 2560 x 1600 (very low resolution on 17" size) but 16:10 display Lenovo "can't" get.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#2 Post by pianowizard » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:06 am

Exciting news! Thanks for sharing! I am happy with the screen resolution, and of course with the weight. 2560x1600 on 17" gives 177.6 DPI, which is not too high and not too low for Windows at 100% scaling. I don't like the keyboard, and in general I am skeptical of LG products (have had bad luck with a TV, smartphone and monitor in the past) but on the whole this is a compelling laptop. I do wish it were half a pound or so heavier, because a 17-incher weighing a mere 2.95 lbs has got to be very fragile.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#3 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:50 am

Puppy wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:52 am
16:10 display Lenovo "can't" get.
But doesn't LG make their own screens? That may be how they can get a 16:10 one without much trouble.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#4 Post by TPFanatic » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:26 am

2560x1600 @ 17" is around 177 DPI which is still more pixel density than

2048x1536 @ 15" 170 DPI
1920x1200 @ 15.4" 147 DPI
1920x1080 @ 14" 157 DPI

So it'd be like the old QXGA but wider. And that was already too small for lots of people.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#5 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:34 am

If it had a trackpoint...I might have considered getting it.
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#6 Post by Puppy » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:46 am

axur-delmeria wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:50 am
But doesn't LG make their own screens?
Lenovo could make them as well being the #1 PC vendor.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#7 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:50 am

Puppy wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:46 am
Lenovo could make them as well being the #1 PC vendor.
Easier said than done....and most consumers don't care. Therefore..its not terribly profitable.
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#8 Post by Ibthink » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:01 am

It is not very well known today, but IBM used to make its own displays under the brand-name IDTech. Notably, they made the IPS Flexview screens for late IBM ThinkPads as well as the "Big Bertha" monitor. IBM withdrew from the joint-venture, because it was unprofitable for them.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#9 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:56 am

Ahhhhh....Big Bertha. I'll take two! I really want to get my hands on two of those....but it will probably be a pipe dream.
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#10 Post by Saucey » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:53 pm

Hmmm I wonder how WQXGA will be in 17", I thought the Apple 27" iMac was perfect.
I found QHD to be too much on 14" (X1C3) and on 15.6" (Zbook Studio G3) for my eyes... but I think its due to the display looking 'grainy' like SXGA+ X61T.
At least they put the touchpad in the middle and not offset to the left.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#11 Post by ZaZ » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:05 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:34 am
If it had a trackpoint...I might have considered getting it.
Yes, I'd love to have a trackpoint for my 17" notebook. I'm not into paying much more than $500 for a notebook these days, so the Gram would be out for me, but sub three pounds on a 17" notebook is pretty amazing.
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Re: LG Gram 17 - 16:10 display

#12 Post by pianowizard » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:56 pm

ZaZ wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:05 pm
but sub three pounds on a 17" notebook is pretty amazing.
I vaguely recall that about 3 to 4 years ago, I commented on this forum that my dream laptop would be a 17-incher weighing 4 lbs and with 2560x1440 resolution. Compared to that hypothetical dream laptop, this LG Gram 17 weighs a full pound less, has a higher resolution, and a larger screen area due to the 16:10 aspect ratio. I agree this is "pretty amazing".
Saucey wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:53 pm
I found QHD to be too much on 14" (X1C3) and on 15.6" (Zbook Studio G3) for my eyes
TPFanatic wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:26 am
2560x1600 @ 17" is around 177 DPI which is still more pixel density than...And that was already too small for lots of people.
Too small only if people don't scale the text larger. Most of us weren't happy with Windows XP's or even Windows 7's ability to scale, but Windows 10 seems to do a reasonably good job. That being said, I am happy with Windows' default scaling for all pixel densities below 220 DPI, for example my Microsoft Surface 3 which is 213.7 DPI. For me this LG's 177.6 DPI panel would be very easy on the eye.
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