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X61T freezing / crashing

#1 Post by gohankong » Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:44 am

Last week i installed Linux Mint XFCE. It was great until 2 days ago, when it froze and had to hard reset it.
Did it again while trying MX Linux from usb boot and after installing it did again.

I don't think it's the RAM, because 2 of the times it only had a browser with one tab open and notes. Also i tried opening a lot of apps (around 12-15) with 2 browsers open with a lot of tabs, both on Mint and MX, it was okay.

I read an older post about the kernels version causing this problem, but this is the latest version of MX and Mint, which is with different/newer kernels. I don't know what the kernels are or do, but yeah. Any ideas what i can do?

Thank you in advance!

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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#2 Post by gohankong » Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:50 am

*update
So it started happening 5, 10 mimutes after booting.

Also here's the error im getting upon booting
0.4311771 x86/cpu: VMX (outside TXT) disabled by BIOS
5.167534] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.171429] ima: Error Communicating to IPM chip 5.1747641 ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.177635] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.1809891 ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.184796l ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.188529] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip 5.1922771 ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip

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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#3 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:06 am

Run memtest86+ anyways. A few months ago I've had an X61 suddenly freeze a few times. Ran memtest86+ and bam! Memory failure.

The X61T is old enough to be in high school if it were a person :lol: , its components are bound to break down.
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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#4 Post by ajkula66 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:49 pm

A shot in the dark: what's the condition of the battery? Have you tried running the machine on AC adapter only ?
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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#5 Post by gohankong » Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:34 am

So i ran memtest and diagnostics, it says it ok

https://imgur.com/a/UPT1biv

Swapped ram sticks nests and after i did that there appeared an error on booting

4.294150] 1915 6000:00:02.0: Cdrnl *ERROR+ CPU pipe B FIFO underrun

I want to put an SSD and new thermal paste, but i want to make sure the freezing is able to be fixed

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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#6 Post by axur-delmeria » Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:41 am

That's an old version of memtest86.

Here's where you should get it: https://memtest.org/
4.294150] i915 6000:00:02.0: Cdrnl *ERROR+ CPU pipe B FIFO underrun
A quick search for the error give me this interesting forum thread: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1249165 ... d-graphics
I have similar problem as yours on my Thinkpad W520 and similar CPU error message.

It is a hardware issue as I tried switch to Windows 7 and my screen flickers the same way. The issue has to do with overheating.

I increased the fan speed to maximum using "Thinkfan" and I rarely have the problem anymore.
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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#7 Post by gohankong » Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:59 am

This was the free version from memtest, i got the thinpad for 50$, i won't pay the same amount for memtest😅.

I'll try the maxing the fan

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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#8 Post by axur-delmeria » Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:14 pm

Memtest86 is different from Memtest86+. (notice the plus sign)

The latter is open-source and free as beer.

You didn't even check my link, didn't you. :lol:
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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#9 Post by gohankong » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:08 pm

I didn't :D, i thought it was the same as memtest

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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#10 Post by axur-delmeria » Sun Aug 04, 2024 1:21 am

Clean the heatsink and fan, then change the thermal paste as well. You'll also need a thermal pad 0.5mm thick because there's one sandwiched between the heatsink and the northbridge chip (which contains the memory controller and intel graphics). 25mm x 20mm is OK.

Question: how hot is it where you live?
At higher ambient temps (> 30 Celsius) the heatsink becomes less effective at cooling the processor and chipset.
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Re: X61T freezing / crashing

#11 Post by gohankong » Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:58 am

Currently is around 30, 35C. I will do that, found the paste, i have to check for the pads. Also for the other memtest here's the result
https://imgur.com/a/1H42Xty

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